Sex, Drugs, & Soul

100. Psychedelics & Rewriting The Stories That Hold You Back From Your Dreams with Courtney Johnson

• Kristin Birdwell • Season 4 • Episode 14

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For the 100th episode, I sit down with Courtney Johnson, a branding expert, author, and former ghostwriter who makes personal branding feel like emotional foreplay, rather than just marketing.

We get into the fear of being seen, the cringe, the emotional work behind content creation, and why consistency is the real magic. Courtney shares how an accidental six-gram mushroom trip rewired her life, how psychedelics fuel her creativity, and why microdosing for business sometimes beats any strategy.

We talk manifestation versus action, breaking up with the spiritual community, identifying your value above other values, emotional intelligence in the age of AI, and why building a personal brand is basically training your nervous system to be witnessed.

Short, spicy, a little feral, and perfect for anyone who wants personal branding advice that actually lands.

Timestamps
00:00 Celebrating Milestones and Embracing Cringe
02:52 The Emotional Journey of Personal Branding
06:00 Exploring Psychedelics and Personal Transformation
08:58 Breaking Up with the Spiritual Community
12:04 Marketing as an Art Form
14:53 The Power of Consistency in Podcasting
29:51 Balancing Masculine and Feminine Energies in Content Creation
33:04 The Challenges of Writing a Book
36:32 Embracing Cringe and Feedback in Growth
38:02 Claiming Desires and Overcoming Blocks
40:59 The Importance of Structure for Creativity
43:35 Being 100% Human: Embracing Flaws and Growth
44:02 Shifting Self-Talk and Beliefs for Success
50:03 Letting Go of Toxic Relationships
52:14 Pursuing Dreams and Making an Impact

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Kristin:

Welcome to Sex, Drugs, and Soul, the sacred sensual space for wild ones, truth tellers, taboo dancers, and rebels with soul. I'm your host, Kristen Birdwell, best-selling author, mystic, tantrica, and professional line blurrer between the profane and the profound. For years I thought I had to choose be the good girl or the wild one, be spiritual or sensual, polished or powerful. But I've learned the magic lives in the both and in the mess, the mystery, the mischief, and in embracing our messy humanness. This podcast is where healing gets real. Self-discovery gets juicy, and shame gets kicked to the damn curb. Whether I'm flying solo or vibing with fellow seekers, healers, experts, and pleasure revolutionaries, we dive deep into the beautifully messy intersection of spirituality, sexuality, and self-expression. Because your body isn't too much. Your story isn't too messy. And your truth, that's holy. Oh my god. Okay, I've been so excited to do this today because today is my hundredth episode. It kind of brings a little bit of tears to my eyes that I've done this many reps, and I'm so excited to have on today's guest. She's a big uh proponent of consistency and putting yourself out there. Her name is Courtney Johnson, and she's a branding expert, author, content creator, all the things. Um, so welcome.

Courtney:

Thank you.

Kristin:

I definitely want to talk about cringe. Like I know you like talk about it a lot because I think that it relates to content, but also relationships and like putting yourself out there, willingness to be uncomfortable. Um, how did you like or what moment was like, okay, I'm gonna be cringe and have that like feeling?

Courtney:

Mm-hmm. Well, first of all, congrats on your hundredth episode. That's amazing. And I'm so honored to be here. Your hundredth episode. Wow. Um, was there a moment of cringe? So it actually started with me seeing it in other people. I was a ghostwriter for many, many years. Oh wow, okay. Yeah, I go I I ghost throughout blogs and articles and books and social media for tech founders. And I found a really interesting pattern where I saw the data, I saw what content was working, I saw what the audience wanted, I saw their goals. I could make a pretty clear map of what they needed to talk about in order to get to the goals. And what I noticed is a personal brand is an emotional game, way more than it's a tactical game. So I started saying, hey, let's talk about this, let's post about this. And then I would see the stories come up. Well, what are the investors gonna think? Well, what's the board gonna think? Well, what if some what if this is like too problematic? What if a client doesn't understand and they misinterpret? What is and then through those stories, I started to see the patterns, and you can really trace that back to people's like wounding, the stories that come up. So it's, you know, fear of being seen. It's what is this person gonna think of me? It's I'm not good enough, I'm not qualified enough. And I realize in that moment, oh my God, personal brand building is so incredibly powerful, but it's also easy. It's easy because you don't tactically, there's not a lot to do. Tactically, anybody can move their fingers in this way and type, right? It's the emotional work that's underneath it. So once I started seeing it in other people, I was like, all right, I'm gonna do this for myself. I'm gonna build my own personal brand. I'm gonna go all in on myself. And I noticed those same patterns with me. Started helping other people build personal brands, noticed the same pattern with them. So I, it's my mission now to help people overcome that cringe and step into expansion so they can get more opportunities, more sales, put their music to the world, their out to the world, like live their dream. And if you feel not everyone feels drawn to content creation, but for the people that do, it's it's such an unlock.

Kristin:

Yeah, I think it's a great avenue for artistic expression. I'm curious, like you mentioned emotional work. Um, like what would you suggest for people? Because I know like I've helped I'm like, do I post too much? Do I, you know, I'm like, you know, navigating this thing, this love-hate relationship. I'm really trying to fall in love with like posting and all that stuff. And I do notice like some of those stories, like particularly like one coming up, like after something did successful, and then the retraction period. I'm like, ah, do I believe these things that people are saying? Or um, so is there any like jump point or starting point for looking at ourselves or the emotional work that you would suggest doing like as you're building your brand? Or like is it kind of one of those things where you're like tackling it as you go?

Courtney:

Or I mean, it's definitely supportive to have other emotional tools in your toolbox. Um, if you're brand, I mean, if you're listening to this podcast, you're not brand new to emotional intelligence work, probably. But if you are, maybe go to therapy first, get the basics down, learn like self-trust, learn the very basic skills. And then I don't know, I think the psychedelics have been super helpful for me in the content creation journey, but I've also worked with so many coaches, a ton of workshops. I would say for anyone listening to this, that's like, okay, great, Courtney, that's really vague. Is there something I can do right now in a couple of hours? I would go read the book The Big Leap.

Kristin:

Oh, I love that book. That's oh, it's so good. It's so it's Jay Hendrix. I think he's amazing. So good.

Courtney:

Yeah, he also is a psychedelic facilitator. Oh, I didn't realize that. I really I found that out last week. I realized that's great. I posted about his book. And anyways, my friend was like, oh, I trained him as a facilitator.

Kristin:

Oh my god, that's awesome.

Courtney:

Love that. Anyways, um, that's such a great book that really lays out why you're feeling what you're feeling. Because the pattern I see is exactly what you're saying. You might post, you get a big result, maybe something pops off, or maybe someone really resonates with it and sends you a nice text. Like you see a result and then you retract. And then you're like, oh, that was kind of scary. Oh, that's kind of pushing my edges. Right. Like you it really pushes your edges of receiving. But what I would encourage you to do is focus on the outcome instead of just how many likes is this getting, how many comments? Like, oh my God, somebody messaged me and said that this post really clicked and it shifted something in their mind. Or somebody sent me a text saying that this post really helped them have this conversation in their relationship. Like that is the outcome, that is the focus. Like when you focus on that, everything else becomes a lot easier.

Kristin:

And that's the stuff that I feel like rings or like resonates with me the most. It's like if I'm having a shitty day and someone's like, oh my God, your book like really was like a guiding light or something. I'm like, oh yeah. I'm like, so why like need to put in more reps of like shifting the point of awareness on that and like the being gratify grateful for it and like celebrating and all those things. Um I love that you brought up like psychedelics too. If you're if you're open, I'd love to explore like some either some of your like aha moments. I also love that you had put somewhere out there about breaking up with the spiritual community in a way. I'd love to explore that too. Because I kind of had like a little similar, like I'm embracing my humanness. Um, not trying to transcend out of like the human experience. So I'd love to like, yeah, um share space or open it up for psychedelics. Love it. Yeah.

Courtney:

My favorite topic. Yay! Yeah, eventually when um I hit a certain number in my business, I'm only gonna talk about psychedelics. It's just not safe right now.

Kristin:

Okay, wow, cool, good enough.

Courtney:

Eventually, this is like 10 years from now. I love talking about personal brand, but I just wanna heal the whole planet. Yeah, so my journey started when I was in a shitty place in my life. I was super in debt, I didn't have a job, I was doing a lot of self-harm. I was drinking, I was partying, and one night I went out to party, and somebody had there was like a bag of mushrooms on the counter. And these are very strong mushrooms. Um I'm sure we I I'm sure we have the same mushroom person, and you probably know that. They're extremely strong. Anyways, um, there was a bag of mushrooms on the counter, and I didn't really know about mushrooms. I knew they're I kind of knew about them. So I started eating them as I'm partying all night, as I'm drinking and smoking and and doing all this other stuff. And I'm like, fuck these mushrooms, what the fuck is this? This doesn't even work. Never done any psychedelics before. I probably had five, six grams. Oh, snack. I know, and though these were so potent. It's gotta be like an eight gram experience. This is my first time. Um, it all hit me at once, and it I completely changed my life. Like over in the span of eight hours, this eight-hour trip, I mean, it was horrifying and totally scary and bitch slapped the fuck out of me. Yeah. Um, completely changed my life. I literally woke up a completely new person, stopped all of the harmful habits that I was doing, realized that I was worthy of my dream and stepped into that. Like it was an immediate switch. It's not something I chose. I didn't like go to like a ceremony for the first time. It was an accident. And then I wanted to make sense of what happened to me. So I was going to other ceremonies, working with other facilitators over like five years, but it was such an accident and such a blessing.

Kristin:

Yeah, no, I love that. I kind of had like an accidental, like transcendental moment where I was like, okay, I feel like I was about to before I like astral projected in a way and like connected with my dad's spirit and stuff, um, I was like overwhelming, like fear voices from somewhere heard like surrender. I'm like a big proponent too of psychedelics. I I love them. And then I I've taken a little break too because um I feel like um I was chasing it in a way. And like, oh, what kind of cool like insight or aha moment will I have now? And um do you see a lot of people that you work with like use psychedelics for like the microdose end or like the more macro or like a little combination?

Courtney:

Yeah, I mean, a lot of my I encourage my clients to do whatever. You know, my clients work together. My clients are like corporate, corporate girlies that haven't really dabbled in that space. So, you know, movies. Yeah, so I'm like uh a lot of people, a lot of questions people ask me, I'm like, the answer is mushrooms. Just like go eat mushrooms, they'll tell you. Um I do, yeah, I'm a big proponent of microdosing. Like I was severely addicted to ADHD medication and stimulants, and microdosing helped me get off, and that was really, really helpful. Um, but yeah, I really encourage people. I mean, don't go overboard, but my audience is not going overboard. They're they're just dabbling, they're dipping their toes. Yeah, just like okay. Exactly. But I I also took like like this whole year off to do more emotional intelligence integration work of yeah, integrating what I've what I've learned, like really truly integrating it. Cause I I've I totally get it. It can be a trap to keep like chasing. Like one of my friends texted me last night and he's like, hey, do you want to go to Colorado with me to this research center and like um get IV DMT to see like the source code through lasers or something? I'm like, that sounds pretty cool. And I don't know if that's a priority right now.

Kristin:

Well, yeah. If you don't go, I'm not like I'm like, how does one get the invite to do this?

Courtney:

No, I'll send I'll send you Dets. Yeah, okay. Apparently, if you if you're intravenously administered DMT uh at a microdose and then you shine a laser, like two lasers together, you see source code. Okay.

Kristin:

I've seen a video about that, but I didn't realize if it was um connected to DMT. I just thought that they were like looking at for some code through a laser or something. I don't know. I mean it it sounded like they were like on some kind of mind-altering. So didn't sound great. Let's go. I tried to smoke it once. I don't know if I had like any like ha ha, you know, kind of moment. Um it also wasn't at like a facility or with a guy, any of that. What did you smoke it out of? Um my friend had brought some like a little pipe thing, I think. Yeah, yeah.

Courtney:

Okay. I asked that because some people have like a vape. I've never tried the vape. Anyways, yeah, I've done DMT out of a crack pipe, too. Um I also I had a really profound experience, but everyone's like, oh my god, DMT is the most intense psychedelic you could ever take. I didn't I felt like I'd have more intense experiences on other psychedelics. Maybe I just didn't inhale enough. Same.

Kristin:

I'm like, did I not inhale? I'm like, maybe a PTSD from inhaling on a cigar one time and vomited everywhere. Um have you like sat with Aya or journeyed with okay?

Courtney:

Neither. No, not ayahuasca. But I do love LSD, and I think LSD is like so good for business. I mean Steve Jobs, right? It's the reason why Apple's here. Um yeah, I think LSD is really valuable. I do a lot of like brainstorm sessions with LSD.

Kristin:

Cool.

Courtney:

Yeah.

Kristin:

Um, like the full dose or like depends.

Courtney:

Okay. Sometimes a little micro. I've done a couple of like underground business ceremonies on LSD that's like full dose with a whiteboard. Oh, wow.

Kristin:

That's fun. Okay. Yeah. I do have a couple sitting in my drawer at home. So I'm like, I'm getting, you're giving me some ideas. I'm like, do I do that? Or like a little snippet of it? Because but it was very illuminating. I remember even just like being in Mexico picking up a remote control. I'm like, oh, is this symbolic of me trying to wanting to control things in life? Like, where's my I'm like, where does that show up? Where does that show up in your life?

unknown:

Yeah.

Kristin:

It's so great. Um And then just ordered some more. I'm curious about like the psychedelic facilitation too. Have you are you have you been trained in a facilitation yet or just like future down the road, maybe?

Courtney:

I don't think I ever want to facilitate. I think I just want to maybe have a nonprofit that like raises funds for research or something. Cool. Yeah, facilitating seems like could be a lot of emotional labor.

Kristin:

I don't know if I want that. Yeah, that's true. There's a program I'm thinking about doing in January. I'm like, yeah, which one is it? Um I had someone on, she does a macrodosing for healing. And um, yeah, that's her macrodosingforhealing.com. Yeah, so I was like, okay. Um it cured her um epilepsy. And I know like Paul Stamets talks about how it cured his stutter and that sort of thing. I just it was like a reset button on joy and like seeing the interconnectedness of life and creativity.

Courtney:

So I'm like, What are you what are you microdessing in the program?

Kristin:

Um right now, the mushrooms.

Courtney:

Yeah.

Kristin:

Um I went to the Conscious Life Expo in LA a few years ago and got a little shipper. Yeah, there's um a strand called Hillbilly. Um I'm curious, let's see here. I'm gonna look at Okay, yeah. I want to try to talk about breaking up with the spiritual community. Yeah. Um, how did that come about?

Courtney:

Like that's a spicy post. Yeah, so the post you're referencing is this post that went mega viral. I think it has like eight million views. And what's interesting is when so I feel like my spiritual gift, this sounds really crazy, but it's like literally audio schizophrenia. Like I just hear voices over and over repeat the same things over and over and over. And so a lot of times that's how I create my content. I'll just be on a walk and I will hear it's like a chapter of a book or like the page of a book just audibly in my head over and over. And it's usually my own experience, like my own brain processing my own experience. And I know when that happens, it's like a really, really important message to get out. And that had happened for a couple of days. That post was repeating over and over and over in my head. And I was like, no, I'm not gonna do it. But it just gets so loud and so annoying, like a song stuck in your in my head that unless I write it out, it it'll keep bugging me. So that's how it started. Um, and it was really a reflection on some experiences I had where, you know, I was going to these ceremonies and I was going to women's circles and hanging out with people who were constantly manifesting and constantly calling things in, but nothing was actually changing. And I have a pretty controversial belief that if you're not driving towards your dream and your goal and your purpose on earth, you're really selfish as hell because you can't get out of your own way and your own discomfort to help other people. And everybody knows, like we all know what our purpose is. We all, even if you're not super clear on what what it looks like, you know that you're here to help people in some way. You know that you're here to inspire people in some way, you know that you're here to nurture you, you know. Some people just pretend not to know. Um and I noticed that some people just were not making progress to the dream. We're not changing. And I observed, and you know, if you spot it, you got it. I was observing it in other people because there are patterns in myself too, where I was noticing it. But I was just noticing a lot of a lot of manifestation, a lot of calling in and just no action happening. And I got really, really frustrated to where for a long time I just stopped going to all the things because it wasn't, it wasn't helping my mission. And I have this idea of the value above other values. So, what is your value that you would kill all other values for? What is the value that's atop of your decision making? And for me, that value is impact. It's different for everyone, like my partner, his is adventure. Mine is impact. I will make every decision on what has the highest impact. Some people's is something like truth or justice, right? And I also felt like my values were not aligning with the spiritual community anymore, or the spiritual community's value is around truth, finding the right answer, around connection, and all of those things are great. And it's so great that we all have different values and different values above values, but it was not aligned with my value of impact. And so I made the decision to step away because I really desire to step into more impact and helping just as many people as possible live their dreams.

Kristin:

I love that. And I love that concept too value above value. Yeah.

Courtney:

Do you know what yours might?

Kristin:

I mean, what comes to mind is courage.

Courtney:

Courage.

Kristin:

Like uh, I don't I don't like that's the first like impulse, like knee jerk. I don't know if I sat with it longer, but yeah, courage.

Courtney:

I've always been like Yeah, like you're gonna choose the most courageous decision.

Kristin:

Yeah, and it makes me feel alive. Um not to say that I don't feel fear or don't like sometimes I'm like maybe sometimes I'm like crawling instead of like skipping to go do the thing, right? Um No, that's that's interesting. I I I kind of can see like where people could, you know, lean on like the manifestation and sex magic, which I love, but also it's like take action. I think that's important. Because otherwise it's like just passive.

Courtney:

Yeah, it's kind of like Do you really want it? Exactly. Do you really want it? It's do you want it enough to feel that discomfort in your body? That's that's the question. Because every decision we make brings us closer to or further away from our dream and our purpose. That's it's binary, it's one of two things. And to be able to learn just to identify that in your body, identify where your edges are and move through that, which is actually why sex magic and tantra is such a good parallel for for that, because you are learning that in real time to like push your edges. Um What was the what was the question again?

Kristin:

About I'm like, shoot, I love I am I'm in the zone. I was coming back to something, but I forgot. About action and passive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Courtney:

Oh, do you really want it in the binary? Yes. So with action, some people might say, Oh, I'm manifesting money, I'm calling in money, I'm calling in money, and not actually take any action around it. That's the same thing as saying, I'm manifesting to be fluent in French. I want to be fluent in French. It's on my vision board. France is on my vision board, I can picture myself speaking French, but if you're not actually going to French lessons, you can't just wake up one day and be fluent in French. But we think that that we're gonna wake up one day and we're gonna have all this money, or our dream is gonna be accomplished, or we're gonna be a famous singer, or we're going to finally launch that business and it's gonna happen overnight. It does not happen overnight. I think media or movies makes us think that we just quit everything in this dramatic crescendo and everything changes in an instant. And although transformation can happen in an instant, the results are delayed. Same thing as learning an instrument. You wouldn't be like, oh. Well, I have a guitar on my vision board and I think about guitars all the time. And I'm affirming that I am a guitar player, I'm a guitar player, but you've never picked up a guitar and you've never been to guitar class.

Kristin:

Yeah.

Courtney:

If you want to shred the guitar, you get to go to you get to practice every single day. That's what's going to get you there. So I think that's the disconnect is thinking that there is some miracle that's going to happen that is going to bring you the result when it takes reps.

Kristin:

Yeah.

Courtney:

It takes reps.

Kristin:

Yeah.

Courtney:

Like that's how we are in the 3D world.

unknown:

Yeah.

Courtney:

So I think some people like get stuck in the 4D and forget to come back to Earth.

Kristin:

Yeah. It's not like the the guitar notes and and strings and all the chords and stuff are white gonna download like DMT source code.

Courtney:

Exactly. Exactly. You gotta you gotta practice it. Like it's a skill. And of course, miracles can happen. Like maybe you run into someone at a coffee shop that leads you to the perfect instructor that then gets you a great opportunity. And maybe you are like working on your neuroplasticity, so you learn faster, but you still have to go to guitar lessons to learn the guitar.

Kristin:

And put yourself out there, I think, too. Like a willingness to put yourself out there. Um yeah, that's interesting. Yeah.

Courtney:

But I love I love the spiritual community. I really do, even though I broke up with them. Oh, yeah. But but what what I want is I want more people in the spiritual community to see that they have power and to learn from people, learn from the normies on how to make impact. And I want the normies to learn from, yeah, the muggles to learn from the people in the spiritual community on how to tap into their heart. And I think there's like a resistance. Like I have so many friends that are like, well, capitalism bad, money bad, it's all evil, so I'm not even gonna try. And I'm like, bro, you're literally not gonna be able to make an impact and fulfill your mission of launching this technology if you're broke.

Kristin:

Yeah.

Courtney:

You're not gonna be able to fulfill your mission of sharing your music with the world if you can't get people to support you, if you can't get people behind you, if you can't learn basic skills of marketing yourself. Like again, that's where we have to drop into the human experience. And I know it sucks. I know it's not always the best. I know the world is not fair and perfect, but that's where the game is. That's where we get to expand into. Because it's easy to be up here. It's hard to be a human. Yeah. And that's fucking why we're on this planet is to be a human.

Kristin:

We forget that. I'm like, preach, yes. I'm like, the um, I feel like for a long time, like my journey with the spiritual community was wanting to transcend out of the human experience. Like, can I meditate enough or take enough psychedelics or just like, ah, just get me out of this feeling messy thing. But I feel like tantres help like, okay, embrace my humanness and the then like life feels more spiritual and I can see like the different things. Um you mentioned like marketing oneself. How do how does one decide about that? Like, because I um a story that I've been shifting or working on is like, okay, but I'm an artist, I'm a creative. I like to do that, like to move into more marketing of it or of like the self.

Courtney:

Well, marketing is an art form.

Kristin:

Yeah, true.

Courtney:

It's literally an art form. Entrepreneurship is an art form. Yeah, how do you market yourself? So marketing yourself is it's actually very rooted in like propaganda and brainwashing, which I think is fun. Um you can okay, so if I say name a chef, who's the first person that comes to mind?

Kristin:

Oh, Tim Love, maybe. Tim Love, great. Yeah.

Courtney:

So Tim Love owns a piece of your consciousness filed under Chef.

Kristin:

Oh, okay.

Courtney:

Yeah. And so whenever you go to find a recipe, buy a cookbook, go to a restaurant, you're more likely to choose Tim Love because that's what's top of mind in your consciousness. So building a personal brand is owning shares of other people's consciousness in the same way that you can own shares of a company. Wow. So if I was a um graphic designer and my passion was graphic design, what I would want is I would want to own a share of your consciousness filed under graphic design. So when you need a graphic designer or your friend is saying, Hey, do you know any graphic designers? You're immediately going to gravitate towards me. And you can create that content or own that consciousness share a couple of different ways. You can do it, but mainly you do it by being visible and through repetition. So the reason why Tim Love is has top of mind awareness in your mind is because probably Tim Love has the most repetition. You've seen him the most, you've seen the name the most, and that's why it comes up. So it's repetition of getting everybody around us to associate our names, ourselves with our mission or our purpose. It makes it easier for everyone to connect.

Kristin:

Beautiful. Yeah. I love that. I love that explanation too. And it's like to me like a bridge of the normy human and like spiritual consciousness and like walking all that. And I'd love to like go back to that too, because I think that you've made a good point. Like there's so much that um each like group can learn from one another. And it's like, how can we connect more of those those dots? Is there anything else that comes to mind when you think of like bridges between like the normies and and spiritual peeps?

Courtney:

Or yeah, I think it it's chilling the fuck out on our egos. You know, it's like, oh, I can okay. Let's say you're in the spiritual community and you're like, it's my goal to impact millions of people and bring them into their hearts. Well you get to do is go find someone who's impacting millions of people in some way, negative way or positive way, and ask yourself, what are they doing? And just go mimic what they're doing. Oh, what are they doing? They are doing talks around the world, and that's how they're impacting people. They are posting on social media every day. They are, they have a team of people around them, they share their message through books. Like there is a method, and you know it. Like people just pretend not to know. If I do you have a dog or a cat or something like that, I do, yeah. Okay, what's your dog's name?

Kristin:

Boudreau.

Courtney:

Boudreaux. All right. If I'm like, yo, I'm gonna kidnap Boudreaux in a month, and you'll never see Boudreaux again if you don't build a strong personal brand. Do you already have a strong personal brand? But let's say you didn't. Yeah. What what would you do? You'd figure it out. Yeah, for sure. You'd just go ham, you'd post every day, you'd Google how to be reading those books. Yeah. Would you be reading the book, right? You would figure it out. It's not, um, it's not a tactical issue. It's an emotional, emotional climb. Not a tactical climb. We have all the world's information at the tip of our fingers. Nothing is an emotional uh barrier anymore. There's just I mean, nothing is a uh informational barrier anymore. We have all the information we could ever need. The barrier is emotion.

Kristin:

Yeah. I love like that. Um I saw something you posted about that. Like the emotional intelligence will become like the superpower of in the world of like AI and that landscape. I don't know. Can you expand on that a little bit?

Courtney:

Or yeah, it's because okay, for example, a podcast. Do you want to know how to rank in the top four percent of all podcasts that have ever existed?

Kristin:

Tell me.

Courtney:

You post six episodes. Oh, cool. Do you want to know how to rank in the top one percent of all podcasts that have ever existed? You post ten episodes. So consistency and showing up is a name of the game. Nothing, again, nothing is it wasn't a tactical burden for you to get to a hundred episodes. You know how to find a guest, email them. Emailing is easy, finding the guest is easy to book this studio. You go online, you click book, you maybe make an outline. It's that that's not it's not a tactical, and you know how to do that. You can Google, how do I do a podcast? And it'll walk you through the exact same steps. Find a guest, book a studio, find an editor. That is not hard. What was hard is the voice in your head that was like, oh, I'm tired. Oh, I should stop. Oh, well, what if I just take a little break? Oh, what if I stop and I'll come back and do a season two? Oh, oh my gosh, but this really hard thing is happening. And you didn't give in or indulge in the stories that your brain was telling you. You were so strong and connected to the mission of this podcast that you kept going to a hundred episodes. Yeah. That is true mastery. Anybody can book a studio. True mastery is overcoming those stories over and over and over and over and over.

Kristin:

Yeah, I mean, that it brings tears to my eyes. Thank you. Because um there's still stories occasionally, right? Like um, just like a few weeks ago, I was like, do I keep going? Do I keep I need a sign? You know, and then like I I receive it and um and just like keep keep going along. Like I believe in it. And I'm just like putting in the, you know, where I where I see it being as like I'm on my way, right? Do you ever like look back at like, okay, your goal or vision, and and how do you meet her or like your highest self or like so okay, so I know because I know like future me over here, like she doesn't rush. She slows down. Um and like there's little things, because like kind of like what you mentioned too earlier, we don't just wake up and be like, boom, we have our million dollars, we have our whatever success guitar lessons.

Courtney:

Um how do you what's your dream?

Kristin:

Um hmm. I really want this to be like a super, super successful podcast, like reaching more people than what it's reaching right now.

Courtney:

Beautiful.

Kristin:

Um with the intersection of like spirituality, sexuality, and self-expression.

Courtney:

Amazing.

Kristin:

Yeah.

Courtney:

Yeah. So the reason why Joe Rogan is the number one podcaster in the world is not because he has like the best lighting or he's the best questions or whatever. It's because he's the only person in the world with 4,000 episodes. Just nobody else has 4,000 episodes. That's like nobody else does. That's why he's number one. Um and so you get to anchor into that. It's if you want this to be the biggest podcast that impacts the most amount of people, it's it's that you see that the only way to lose the game is to stop posting and stop creating. That's the only way to lose the game. So if you're on a level of, I want the level of influence and impact that Joe Rogan has with his audience, with your audience, you do 4,000 episodes. So just have like that's the anchor. And everything in the middle is noise. I just see it as two points. We've got where we are now, we've got our dream. Every everything in the middle that's not going towards our dream is excuses. And every decision I ask myself, is this bringing me closer or further away? So closer to my future self or further away from my future self. And it's all in the stories. Like how I connect with my future self is I'm like, what story is she telling herself right now? Is it an empowering story? Is it a disempowering story? Um, and I just try my best to clock myself. I'm blessed to have a community of people that will call me out and a great partner that will call me out. Of like, you're indulging in this story because it really is an indulgence. Oh my God, but I'm so tired. Yeah. Oh, but what are they gonna think of me? And it's sneaky. It's really fucking sneaky, but it's it's being able to identify those stories and correct them.

Kristin:

I think Existential Kink is like a great book book to like what part of me is enjoying this or getting a little why am I like, yeah. What part of me likes this and gets off on it? Exactly. Um yeah. Um, I love that question too that you pose. Like, okay, because that's just so clear. Is what I'm gonna do getting me closer or further away? And like, and sometimes though, I'm like, is that rest? Is that like lesson, you know, listening to myself? I kind of have like that. I'm like, do I need more rest or do I need more action? Kind of like that masculine, feminine kind of dynamic. How do you navigate or balance those like with whether it's, you know, content, life, relationships, anything?

Courtney:

I love that question. With content, I have what I call the masculine and the feminine side of my content strategy. So the masculine side of my content strategy is I have um, I have help. I have a an awesome um social media manager that helped me out with this, but she edits and schedules at least three posts a week that have at least one call to action that go back to a program of mine. So that's the masculine side. I know that these are going out at this time. I know that they are strategic, they are extremely consistent. I know exactly what deliverables I need to provide to her. There's no excuses, they're always going out. Um, then I have the feminine side of content creation, which is I'm on a walk and I get an idea that strikes me and I post it in the moment. And to have that masculine side to have, I know at least three posts are going out. I know they're pre-batch, it opens up so much more creativity in the feminine side of content creation. To where if you go into content creation just with the feminine energy, oh, when the ideas strike, when I'm in flow, you're just not gonna have the consistency that's needed to grow. So I feel very like I get to be very flowy and feminine in my content creation, which I love.

Kristin:

Yeah, because you have the masculine structure. Okay.

Courtney:

And same in my business. Like I have so much structure that allows me to surrender. For example, every single morning I host a content club where you're thinking about joining. Yes, joining, where we create content every day from 8 to 9 a.m. And it's so structured that I don't feel like I'm putting any like masculine energy into it. It's like brushing my teeth. Like it's just a habit that I have. Um, I have a money date every single Monday. I love money date. Love a money date where I do my money tasks. I have co-working sessions twice a week where I co-work with a friend. So because I have this structure, maybe 20% of my week, the other 80% of my week can be super flowy. Love that.

Kristin:

Love that. Um, I thought about something and I was like, wow, where did that go? Where did my question go? I was like, oh, okay, yeah, I know. Um, yeah, that's kind of how I feel about like writing and creating things like writing a book or something. Um, like I am a big believer in outlining because for me it gives like the structure for that feminine flow. And it's like, okay, if I know I'm gonna sit down to write this, I'm gonna know I'm gonna write about this. It doesn't mean that I can't, you know, have wiggle room to write about something else or or like an inspired idea. Um, and I know you're like, are you you're working on a book right now? Yes, like I would love to explore. Yeah, I would love to explore that. Like what's your writing process looked like? Like what's how's the journey been for you? That sort of thing.

Courtney:

Yeah, Omar, I know you know this too, but writing a book is it's not it's like metal. It's not for the week. It is like I've done a lot of really hard things in my life. I ran marathons. Oh wow. I was a professional dancer, professional ice skater. Like I've done really difficult, like high-level things. Writing a book has been harder than all of that. Because it's like doing all of those, it's like I don't know, training for a marathon plus just a fuck ton of emotion. So what I did is I it's so, yeah, there's so like revisiting stories and like moving through that. It's so much emotional labor. But I loved it. I love writing. I just locked myself in remote Airbnbs for days at a time. That was my writing side writing process. I love that. And are you done now?

Kristin:

Are you in like the editing phase?

Courtney:

Or does it look like they kept being like, okay, this is the final edit. And you're done. Okay, one more edit. And I think there's been like 16. Like final edit. Final edit. Okay, now we're doing the this edit. Now we're doing the name edit. Now we're doing the fact check edit. I was like, oh my God, so many edits. Yeah. So it's it comes out March 17th.

Kristin:

I was curious. Okay, cool. Spring. I love that. Like it's like a to me, it's like renewal energy, like fresh start. Like, I love like this the energy of spring.

Courtney:

So beautiful. Yeah. I really, really giving birth to what you are.

Kristin:

Like I I I tell them it's like this is all like a little child. Yes. Like a big endeavor of self-love. Because I think it goes back to like the trust thing, like you're showing up where you told yourself you're showing up, and back to like percentages. I think only like 2% of the people, 80 or something percent of people that say that they want to do it actually do it. So it's pretty awesome.

Courtney:

Yeah.

Kristin:

Do you still feel cringe at all today, or is it kind of like you've done the reps that it's like easy breezy coasting or a little bit easier now?

Courtney:

I feel cringe all the time. You're always gonna feel cringe if you're always pushing your edges. Yeah. Um, I mean, some things are very easy. I don't really feel cringe about. I'll post on social media all the time, but some topics I really cringe. I had a big guest on my podcast a couple days ago, and my legs were like shaking the entire time. I was so scared. I was I'm like, can we tell? Yeah, can you tell who it was? Yeah. Her name's Anne. She founded Solid Core and she exited Solid Core for $98 million. Oh shit. She has 100% equity in the company. She has a really cool nonprofit for like homeless men. She's so inspiring. And yeah, I fucking love her. Anyways, I was shaking the whole time. So you're all yeah, you're always gonna feel cringe. Like it's not a goal to overcome the cringe. It's a goal to get really fucking comfy with the cringe so you can be in the cringe space and know how to move through it rather than feeling that feeling, getting really scared and avoiding or pushing it away or whatever.

Kristin:

Or like shut down or response comes up. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Um I wanna say too, I love like your take on um like negative comments or trolls or like in life, the engagement fairies, or like thanking them. I thought that was like really interesting.

Courtney:

Yeah, you have to get horny for the trolls. Like you have to you have to really love them. Um because it means you're doing something right. It's like, oh my God, yes, this is amazing. Yeah, exactly. Like your internet clip. Literally, you just can't get to the level you want to get to without trolls. Yeah. Like you have to, have to, have to. It's it's an initiation. It's like, fuck yeah, I'm so excited. And it just means that you're being a mirror for people. And how beautiful is that? Like, that's your whole purpose is to be a mirror for someone in the domain of whatever you're creating.

Kristin:

Mm-hmm. It's like, what's coming alive for you? Because you're looking at yourself in reaction. Yeah, exactly. Um, so you mentioned horny. I'd love to. I I usually ask this at the top and I forgot. Um, I'd love to like figure out or ask you what's turning you on in life right now or like making you feel the most alive.

Courtney:

Oh, love this question. What's been really fun for me is being a little bit less people pleasy in my coaching and facilitating and just calling people out and like practicing sitting in that discomfort of making a bold statement or going to a place where I know the other person is gonna be really uncomfortable and like enjoying it, like enjoying the tension that I created between this person. I did a um a live workshop last night, and I was just having so much joy of calling people out on their bullshit and sitting in the discomfort. And then there's a breakthrough available for them. I this one guy was sitting in the back and I called him out for like not participating, and I'm like, why are you here? I and he's like, I don't have my girlfriend dragged me here. I don't have a dream. I don't want to create content. I called bullshit, coached him through it. Turns out he dreams of making an aviation YouTube channel and he loves planes and all this. And so even though I was like really railing into him during this workshop, at the end he came up to me, he's like, Thank you so much. I really broke through that. I'm so inspired. I'm gonna take committed action on my YouTube channel today.

Kristin:

Wow, that's beautiful. And like he gets to claim and own his desire. That's his dream.

Courtney:

Yes. I think that's such a also important bridge of like tantra um to to our lives, to our purpose is claiming your desires. It's really hard for me to work with someone if they don't know their dream, if they don't know have a vision, if they don't know where they're going next. And everybody has a dream.

Kristin:

Yeah.

Courtney:

The people that say they don't, they're lying. They're afraid to claim their desire. Like that is it. They don't feel worthy of saying, I want to be an actor, I want to write a book, I want to be a mom, I want this thing, I want a great relationship, I want to start a business, I want to have a lot of money. People don't feel comfortable claiming that. And so that's actually the first step. It's like really learning how to claim your desires and knowing what you desire.

Kristin:

Yeah. I have so many. Sometimes I'm like, okay, how do I focus on what's fun? How do you focus? Um, well, I've been, you know, I listened to your podcast with Leola and I was like, okay. Because I told myself I work best in spurts. Well, I noticed that my spurts were not as often. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna commit to at least like 20 minutes to 60 minutes of riding a day. And I've been just like picking what's juicy. So whether it's like poems or songs or this somehow this fiction book that's coming through, I'm like, I don't even know what this is, or like a pilot that I'm working on with someone, I'm like, this is so fun. Um, and so just kind of like picking what's juicy and alive and just like actually showing up. And I've found that me doing that has lessened some of the anxiety from like whether it's not doing the thing or like just that pressure.

Courtney:

Yes. And that's that's because you created a masculine structure to surrender into. And a mistake that I see women make, especially women in like spiritual community, the tantra community, is they're like, well, I don't want to do that because it's masculine. Well, I don't want to set a timer to write every day because that's too masculine. And I'm a feminine flowing goddess. But what that creates is anxiety, just like you're saying. What that creates is more breakdown. What that creates is procrastination, lack of self-trust. And I think women often use the excuse of this is too masculine for me. We all get a balance. If we only lived in our feminine 24-7, that just that does not work, right? It does we all have different levels of our masculine and feminine, but I it is almost impossible to live completely in your feminine. I think it's probably totally possible for some people. But it but if you desire to make a massive impact on the world, you have to be rooted in practicality as long as we're humans living on Earth. And that requires some masculine energy. So if your dream or goal is to write a screenplay and you're like, well, I it's too masculine. I'm not gonna put time on the calendar. It's never gonna be done. You're robbing the world of your gifts, you're robbing the world of this story, you're being selfish, and you're gonna create anxiety and breakdown for yourself. So it's not a matter of how do we stay in our feminine all the time. It's how do we create this masculine structure so we can shift when we need to.

Kristin:

Yeah, I like that. I like having a writing date too scheduled on my calendar, kind of kind of like you mentioned with your coworking stuff, because I'm like, okay, I have that deadline, and like I know myself, I'm like sometimes I'll inch up to that deadline, but I'm like, oh, I'm a I'm a pressure performer. But you know, I'm like very deadline oriented. There's something else I was gonna say. Yeah, about spoke talking to about like the desires thing, I do think that there's some correlation you have between taunt or like naming your desires. If you can name your desires and and stuff in the bedroom, you could probably more easily name it like when it comes to to me, like dreams or work or thing, because I feel like there's so much of that energy too. Um Yeah, how did you how did you dip your toe or or nose dive or you know, like what is it, dive into Tantra?

Courtney:

How did I dive into Tantra? Um I think it started just with yoga. Yeah. And then I think the first thing I did was one of Rena's Shibari classes. Um and then I just started going to workshops and stuff. I did Leola's Tantra retreat. Yeah, I think it's just kind of like unfolded over the last few years through if you're living in Austin, you're just you're gonna have this true.

Kristin:

Yeah, it's definitely like a Tantra hub.

Courtney:

Yeah, but shout out shout out Rena for initiating me.

Kristin:

Yeah, I definitely want to have her. You know, I um I went to a play party not too long ago and she did a performance there. And then I had some, I tried Shibari for the first time, and I was like, oh wow, I got emotional. I was like, wow, there's that control thing again coming up. Oh yeah.

Courtney:

Definitely, yeah, definitely will alchemize the control.

Kristin:

Yeah. Oh, and it is beautiful and powerful, and more that I can get into later. But yeah, like the Shibari is really, really cool. Um, and yeah, uh the masculine and feminine thing, yeah, I if I were just to live in only my feminine, I would just be horizontal. I wouldn't be here right now.

Courtney:

Exactly. And see, like we we're we're here to experience ourselves as human. Same as like men. You don't want men in their masculine all the time. You men need to be in their hearts and they get to flow too, right? It's not, I just see this false what I believe to be is a false idea of the goal is to be a hundred percent feminine. I don't believe that that's the goal. I think the goal is to be a hundred percent human. I love that. Like I think have this theory where I think like Buddha or like Jesus would probably have like a drunk sig, you know, because that's like a human experience, right?

Kristin:

Yeah, I'm like a drunk sig in an orgasm.

Courtney:

No, literally, literally both at the same time. Exactly. Like we're here to be humans. That's that's why we're here.

Kristin:

I love that. 100% human.

Courtney:

100% human. Like we have all of eternity to be like perfect, yeah.

Kristin:

And like that doesn't even exist. Right, exactly. What are some key like my ear is ringing? Is that like a confirmation of something? Is that like some kind of new download? I'm like, why is my ear ringing? Um, uh, what was I gonna say? Hmm. Mm-mm. Human human. Yeah, yeah, being human means you'll have brain parts every now and then. Okay, I guess like um, is there any like beliefs or core beliefs that you see or spot in people or implement um that you see in like in success and building personal brown br brands?

Courtney:

Yeah, I mean it's it's it's your language. It doesn't even have to be a belief, it's just your language. How are you speaking to yourself? How we talk to ourselves turns into belief. So uh yesterday when I was facilitating, somebody said, Well, I'm bad at promoting myself. I'm so bad at promoting myself. And I was like, Yeah, you are bad at promoting yourself. As long as you tell yourself that story, you're gonna believe it and you're gonna be bad at promoting yourself. Are you willing? Do you desire to create a new story? Or do you want to stay indulging in the old one? Because the old one is so comfy, cozy. And if you choose a new story, I am becoming great at promoting myself. I'm learning how to promote myself every day, or whatever skill it might be. But the minute you shift the story you're telling yourself, the minute your belief shift. But you cannot shift the belief without first shifting your story. And again, it's so indulgent. Like I had this whole thing where I'm like, I'm bad at math, I'm bad at math. I always got bad grades in math. Oh my God, like the bill comes, I'm so bad at math, somebody else do it. And I realized I was just indulging in this like self-depreciation. And I get to choose a new story. So I can, whenever I'm choosing a new story, I make it my phone background. Oh, nice. So for the last few months, my phone background has been I'm amazing at math. I'm so smart, I can figure anything out. I love it. I love it. I've told myself that same thing. I'm like, I'm an English reading gal.

Kristin:

Yeah, me too. I'm not, I'm like, ugh, that that math though. Although I can definitely add up some numbers in my bank account. You know, I'm like, we we are golden there. Yes, ma'am. Okay, here's some just like fun like questions that me and ChatGPT kind of created with that uh yeah. Any, uh, what's a rule that you gleekly break on purpose? Oh my gosh, this is such a good question.

Courtney:

So a rule that I break is doing things well. I just don't believe in doing things well. Okay, I believe in iteration. So if I was going to when I wanted to write a book, instead of sitting down and writing a book, I made shitty tweets around topics that were gonna be in the book. So that was version one. Version two, I started expanding on those and making blog posts. Version three, I put them into a book outline. Version four, I made really shitty chapters. Version five, I improved it, I improved it. Like we wouldn't have the iPhone, I don't know, 17, 18, 19 without the iPhone one. And a lot of times people go into things thinking, I need to be an excellence. This has to be great, this has to be perfect. And I always break that rule. Um, in content creation, like there's two games there's the game of consistency and then the game of optimization. So I tell people like, you gotta master consistency first. I don't care if you post videos of your dog shitting every day and it's like a horrible video. You just gotta get the reps in and then make it better. So I just I don't believe in doing things well. I believe in iteration. I love that. Do it badly and then do it a little better every time.

Kristin:

I think that's great. I think that's golden advice. And it kind of reminds me of like the readiness thing. Like, you're when are you gonna feel 100% ready?

Courtney:

No, never.

Kristin:

I don't think yeah. I'm like, hasn't happened to me yet?

Courtney:

No, me neither.

unknown:

Yeah.

Kristin:

Okay, let's see. It says, what's the you kind of answered this one. I like the wording it gave. It's like, do you prefer foreplay, prepping content or raw in the moment?

Courtney:

I love it. Um yeah, I I mean, I love when I mean I love when I start to hear voices in my head. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be viral. I can't thank you. Thank you, whoever's talking to me. Um yeah, I prep I prefer the flowiness, but actually I like both. I mean, my content club is is the structure. It's um we literally meet every single day on Zoom and create content together, but it brings flow to structure.

Kristin:

Yeah, I love that. I know I'm shifting my relationship with telling myself that 8 a.m. is too early. Yeah, I know it's not too early. Yeah, it's right, like it's right on time. I can do it in bed.

Courtney:

Somebody told me that um, yeah, one of my friends told me that 5 a.m. is goddess hour. And ever since she said that, I was like, wait, you're so right. I don't wake up at five, but it made me feel better about waking up at 8 a.m.

Kristin:

I'm like, and I can do, yeah, I'm like, and I can do it like horizontal in bed. Like I like to do a lot of things in bed.

Courtney:

I literally wake up, open my computer, and I'm in bed as I'm facilitating this.

Kristin:

Okay, yeah. No need to be better. Give it a go. Yeah. Oh, where are my fun spicy questions go? Okay, oh yeah. What's the spiciest opinion you hold about the spiritual or coaching world?

Courtney:

Oh my gosh. The spiciest opinion I hold is that people are resistant to feedback and that yeah, peop people's egos get in the way of feedback.

Kristin:

Yeah.

Courtney:

Um and I think without feedback, without corrections, without feedback and mirroring each other of where of our shortcomings, it's gonna be a spiral hole into the ground.

unknown:

Yeah.

Courtney:

Show me my blind spot. Show me my blind spot. And if it feels like uh yes, show me my blind spot. Yeah. If I think if you have a great partner, your great your partner will show you your blind spots. Yes, sure.

unknown:

Yeah.

Courtney:

I'll matchmake. Are you looking for a partner? I'll match. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Kristin:

Yeah, that's like definitely like I signed up for another year of like Pleasure Priestess Wheel, and I'm like, okay, I definitely want to do more leadership, more impact, and I I want that like sacred partnership um and shifting from more of like the being open to like monogamous or like us creating our own thing. Yeah, I love it. Um yeah, if you if you got any clean adults, let me know. Yeah.

Courtney:

I'll I'll um go through my seat in your consciousness.

Kristin:

Yeah, let's just plan it. Um also taking submissions. No. It says, okay, is there any part of your story that feels the most taboo but also the most powerful?

Courtney:

Oh, such a good question. Yeah. Oh my god, I have a great part. I uh I think in order to get to where you want to go, you le you have to leave a lot of people behind. People that are treating you badly, people that are not adding value to your life, people that have very like toxic opinions. And a lot of times we hold on to people because, oh, well, they're a friend from high school or this is a family member or whatever. But if you would not come into a new relationship, if you would not allow yourself to be treated like that in a job or from a partner, you cannot allow other people to treat you like that. And I think this is a scary thing to talk about, but I see this as a huge barrier for a lot of my clients accomplishing their dreams. They keep coming up on problems and problems and stories and stories, and I ask them, well, who are you surrounding yourself with? Well, my roommate's kind of toxic, and I'm still friends with all the people from my hometown, and I am really worried about what this person that was my college sorority thinks of me. You gotta drop them. And what's hardest is dropping the people that are not adding value to your life, but they also didn't do anything wrong. You're like, this person is really not as you're growing, this person's not growing with me. They're not I'm not getting value from them. We're not having a very like win-win relationship, but they didn't do anything wrong. And they're really nice. And I love them. And sometimes it might be time to move on.

Kristin:

For sure. That's been like one of the harder things. I feel like I've like, I feel like that attachment. Like, I love you. I love you. And I'm probably gonna have to do it from afar. Yes. And it's like I can still love you and think about you. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I can are you in my immediate sphere. It's been so challenging because I feel like I'm so emotional. I get emotionally attached. And um, so that's a good one. Oh my god, yes. Um, and you mentioned hometown. So I just love I gotta drop in then. I'm like two East Texas girls. Tyler Texas, Tyler, represent what is there anything else that you want to add in or share or like that's more the most alive for you right now?

Courtney:

Um yeah, I just want your audience to know that you're so deserving of your dream. And you were put here on earth for a reason. And that's your path. That's your dharma. Your dream is your dharma. You get to anchor into your dream and follow that journey. And it's gonna be uncomfortable and it's gonna be raw and shit's gonna come up. But if we want to have a massive, massive impact on our world, the best way to do that is for us to follow our dreams and encourage and support everybody around us to follow their dreams too. Because our dreams is the path to peace. It's the path to love, it's the path to impact.

Kristin:

Oh, I love that. Ugh. My job drop it. Um, and I'll definitely put like all of your info in the show notes. But if you want to like share anything else here, any special offers that you got, like, definitely.

Courtney:

Yeah, you can if you just Google Courtney Johnson, you'll find me everywhere. Um, and join my content club. It's $150 a month or $1,000 for the year. And we meet every single day on Zoom from 8 to 9 a.m. And I give you the exact content prompt. We work on it together. You're coached through any cringe or discomfort that comes up. And we also have an engagement group through like and comment and support on each other's posts. It's a really fun community. I like that.

Kristin:

Yeah, support. And yeah, like that's a that brings up something for me too. Like, whenever I'm up, um, if you're texting me about something, just do a little heart or a comment. Like, you're my friend. Like, so why aren't we supporting one another more? Yeah. I'm like, okay, yeah. We get to support. Yes. And um, I love that. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. This is so great. Awesome. Yay! Yay. Thank you for being here, love, for listening with your whole heart, for listening to the very end, and for walking this wild path with me. If today's episode stirred something in you, whether a giggle, a tear, or a full-body yes, don't keep it to yourself. Share the magic, leave a review, drop me a note, or send it to a fellow sacred rebel who needs it. And remember, your story is sacred, your desires are divine, and your mess is part of the masterpiece. Keep showing up, keep feeling it all, and keep turning your life into poetry. Until next time, stay wild, stay tender, and stay true to that beautiful soul of yours. All my love, Kristen.