Sex, Drugs, & Soul

96. What is a Dakini? | Liv Pavlov on Tantric Bodywork and Sensual Alchemy

• Kristin Birdwell • Season 4 • Episode 10

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In this episode, Liv Pavlov, dakini, tantric guide, and sensual alchemist, returns for a third round to explore tantric bodywork. We dive into what it means to be a dakini, how trauma and desire manifest in the body, and how presence, breath, and pleasure can become a form of medicine.

Liv shares her four-step sensual medicine therapy process, how to expand your capacity to feel, and the truth about the body’s innate wisdom to heal through sound, movement, and conscious touch.

Timestamps:
00:00 – Welcoming back Liv Pavlov: the first three-peat guest
01:24 – What is a Dakini?
03:37 – Tantra defined: weaving together all parts of the self
06:02 – The deeper purpose of tantric bodywork beyond the erotic
07:28 – How to bring more presence into intimacy
08:54 – The power of breath and awareness
09:44 – Liv’s 4-step Sensual Medicine Therapy method
12:06 – Eros as life-force energy: reclaiming your erotic aliveness
13:10 – Tantric practices for mothers and busy women
15:34 – Mirror work and five-minute sensual practices
16:43 – Yoni eggs, postpartum healing, and energetic cleansing
18:08 – Trauma and ancestral memory in the body
20:23 – How Tantric touch releases tension and stored emotion
22:46 – Why the body doesn’t need the story to heal
24:39 – What to know before receiving Tantric Bodywork
26:16 – The naturalness of Tantra and returning to ancient wisdom
28:09 – Lightning Round: hips, pleasure, and peaking practices
30:19 – How to work with Liv and learn more

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Kristin:

Welcome to Sex, Drugs, and Soul, the sacred, sensual space for wild ones, truth tellers, taboo dancers, and revels with soul. I'm your host, Kristen Birdwell, best-selling author, mystic, tantrica, and professional line blurrer between the profane and the profound. For years I thought I had to choose be the good girl or the wild one, be spiritual or sensual, polished or powerful. But I've learned the magic lives in the both and in the mess, the mystery, the mischief, and in embracing our messy humanness. This podcast is where healing gets real. Self-discovery gets juicy, and shame gets kicked to the damn curb. Whether I'm flying solo or vibing with fellow seekers, healers, experts, and pleasure revolutionaries, we dive deep into the beautifully messy intersection of spirituality, sexuality, and self-expression. Because your body isn't too much, your story isn't too messy, and your truth that's holy. All right. All right. I am feeling good today. I got my workout in. So welcome back. I'm medicated on caffeine. And I'm a first three-peater today. Liv Pavlov. And yeah, I'm excited. We're gonna do like Dikini 101, I think. But before we dive into that, I want to um ask you before I forget, what's turning you on in life or making you feel the most alive right now?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Two things. One, uh the fall coming in and like waking up every morning. I try to go out and stand on the grass and just put my feet on the ground and look at the sun and like that cool breeze. Oh my gosh, that is making me feel alive. I say I turned into an indoor cat this this summer. I was just like hibernating. Yeah. Yeah. I'm normally not like that. But yeah, fall and just connecting with the nature of fall um and my community here. I just have so many good friends, and like really almost every day I could be doing something, and that is turning me on. Yeah.

Kristin:

Yeah. I do love I saw this funny meme um that's set for Austin winters, like it's or fall. Starts at 6 a.m., ends at 9 a.m.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, totally right.

Kristin:

Because then it's like 95 and yeah, yeah. And I'm like, uh, but I am ready for like get cozy and like all that stuff. I love the nice little chill. Um, so I would love to dive in. We had like a little power sis. So I'm like, boom, boom, I'm ready to go. Um I want to start off like, what is a dikini?

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So yeah, as we were dropping in, um, dakini means sky dancer. So to me, this uh translation from Sanskrit means having one foot in the spiritual realm or the other realms, the other world, and one foot in earth, like really grounded. And, you know, another another word that is the same translation is shaman, actually. It has the same to have one foot in both worlds. Um, but yeah, that's what that's what dikini actually means. And more commonly now, people who offer any kind of tantric healing, tantric coaching are identifying and using that word as being a dichini to encompass and be a label for like, okay, you're not just a coach, you're not a masseuse, like what are you? Oh, I'm a daikini.

Kristin:

So yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

Kristin:

I have like the labeling of it. Or like, I'm like, that's what I've had. Uh I'm like, what it what do I call myself? You know? Um, is it this or that? Um I know because a lot of times when people think about Tantra, they think immediately like sex or in that realm. Like, how do you describe like the deeper underlying intention or purpose of the body work beyond just the erotic?

SPEAKER_03:

Because I know that that's part of it, but I feel like it's it's a big yeah, it's a big question and a good one. So I like to come back to the definition of tantra, which means to weave together. That's actually also the translation, to weave together. And so to me, a dikini is someone that is supporting me to weave together different parts of myself. So that might be to weave together my sexual trauma and my desire to have a healthy, intimate life, right? Or to weave together my body and my soul, or my spirit and my being, or my hidden shadow desires and the things I've never, my deep dark secrets and self-acceptance, right? To me, um the role of a Dikini and then the man, the male version, or you know, the it is pretty, it is very gendered, but is a Daka or Dikini, um, is someone who's supporting me to bring different parts of myself together into greater wholeness. And I think specifically, you know, Tantra, once you kind of come into the world of like, ooh, Tantra, what is it? Sex, ooh, it's sparkly. Then I think the next thing people encounter is like, wow, this is a realm of like deep acceptance for all people, all lifestyles, all ways of being, all life paths and histories, and um, maybe even to a fault sometimes, I think, in the the Todd Trick community. But um, that's what it's really about to me, is like when I'm when I'm working with someone, when I'm supporting them, there's usually something that someone is dealing with, right? Whether it's I'm dealing with a literal what people would call sexual dysfunction, right? I'm either a lot of times women come in and they're saying I'm feeling a lot of numbness in my body, or I, you know, check out and dissociate during sex. Uh, what do I do with that? How do I actually learn to bring that into having a present, loving, healthy connection with my body and sex? Or, you know, men are often drawn in through like, um, coming too quickly, or I want to learn how to, you know, have more feeling of control over my body, or, you know, I I never I don't know how to pick partners that make me feel safe or connected. And so people often will kind of come in through the door of something's going on, a challenge sexually, but it's always so much deeper than that. It's always like really then looking at, okay, well, where did that start and where why is that happening? And did that come from something in your in your last marriage or in your childhood, or you know, what you learned from your church that you're constantly tr struggling to integrate, right? And so um yeah, I really feel that my my purpose is supporting people to weave together parts of themselves that have felt hard to hold or understand or integrate.

Kristin:

I love that definition, or um because I feel like I've heard different definitions, but and when it you said something about it meaning like weave together too, I immediately thought like we've uh those different parts, and then also like helping people maybe weave together like the skydancer element, like the the spirit and the the human space. So basically a bridge. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Um yeah, that's so interesting to me. I'm curious, like, let's see. And I know that I you I've worked with you before too, and um, like in previous episodes, I think earlier like three years ago, we had a session on like before I did the Yoni healing session and then after. And I I just remember you saying, like you we had a conversation about expanding the capacity to feel. And um I was like, you said something about it, yeah, in all directions.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

Kristin:

I was like, whoa, you know, I have this high, high joy, and then like the but the opposite spectrum of that is how I guess, quote un you know, low or that I could feel or traverse, right? The scale, I guess.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

Kristin:

Um yeah. What do you what do you suggest for people that are like wanting to bring more presence to like their sex life or to their encounters?

SPEAKER_03:

That's a great question. Hmm. Well, I would start with like noticing where you lose presence. Like some of us lose presence when thing we feel like things are moving too slow, right? It's like some of it, like that awkward pause in the connection or the conversation. It's like some of us lose presence and go into like, oh my God, I need to do something, right? And other people lose presence when things get too intense, like when there's too much sensation or too many people in the room or too much going on or whatever it is. And so I think the first thing would be awareness. Like that I have this approach I've been using and teaching in my recent class, it's called sensual medicine therapy. And the first there's four steps, and the first step is bringing awareness to whatever is happening. And so I would say that is the place to be in. Um, and then the second step is about expanding our somatic capacity. So, like our body's capacity to feel and help us stay present. And so honestly, it sounds so simple, it's so cliche, but breathing. Like I think I know for myself and for most of my clients, like the hardest thing to remember to do when we're receiving any kind of touch, much less intimate touch, is breathe. Like and not we kind of go like I'm breathing, but not really, but like oh, and that that just completely tells our body to open, to relax, to expand. And and the body then helps us stay present. So honestly, those would be my two like tips that could apply to anyone, no matter what you're experiencing, is notice what's happening, why am I checking out? When do I lose presence? And then when I do, breathe. So good. I know it's so cliche, but it's like actually game changer. Yeah.

Kristin:

Like I know I lose presence when I have this phone. No. Um yeah, that's like yeah, getting curious about that. That's cool. I know I'm curious about the the other two steps of your sexual medicine. What would you say? Central medicine?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh-huh. I love that. Yeah. Um, then the next one is erotic reclamation. So reclaiming our connection with our Eros. So Eros uh for me is the word of life force energy. And sometimes we think of Eros as like just the sparkly turn-on feeling that we feel in our genitals. But I think of Eros as the same thing that grows my fingernails or gives me a new inspiration or motivates me to get up and do my workout in the morning, right? And when when I'm feeling like low in my Eros in my body, I'm not very motivated in my work, in my life, to do stuff, to have new ideas. Um, and I think that Eros is so often suppressed and shut down because the world has this kind of context that we a lot of us have learned that it's not safe to be fully alive and fully expressed or too much or too sexy or too out there, too whatever. And so the process of erotic reclamation for me and the way that I've been working with it is like, can I learn by myself, with myself, one-on-one, at home, when there's no one else in the room to like actually turn up the volume on that aliveness, whether it's through dance, through movement, through like vigorously just rubbing my whole body head to toe, whether it is like what we would call self-pleasure or bringing touch to my genitals, whatever it is, it's like, can I reclaim that my liveness is mine and it's okay to have it and I can cultivate it? So that's the next step. Um, and then the fourth part is erotic embodiment. So once I can do that by myself, once I can turn on and feel alive and, you know, have more motivation, have more energy for my workouts and my kids and my wife and my everything, um, then can I actually take that into the world? Can I embody that? How do I get dressed? Right. Like today I was like, okay, I'm gonna wear double earrings because I'm going on the podcast with her. Like just who cares, right? But it's fun. Like how can I just bring me, a little more of me, my expression, my aliveness into my body and into what I do and how I show up in the world. So that's the fourth step. Yeah. Yeah.

Kristin:

And I love, you know, I I kind of thought about, you know, you mentioned your um I want to talk about like maybe like the moms like that are doing stuff or like have, you know, a mile-long to-do list or errands, or, you know, um, like maybe the length, like it may, maybe it doesn't have to be a certain length or maybe speak to that a little bit because I feel like um like not adding to their list in a way you know where I'm trying to go with this.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Like for moms especially who have a lot on their plate, how can they embody this and have this without it being like, oh my God, I have to go to a retreat or I have to take an hour. Exactly. You know, is 30 bucks more of my nanny or what is. Yeah, totally. Well, yeah, for anyone watching that doesn't know, I have a 20-month-old daughter. She's not quite two, not quite one and a half. So I've deeply been on this journey myself of, you know, being pregnant, going through birth and postpartum, what that's been like. And um yeah, I would really say I felt so humbled throughout the whole journey of just like, wow, my connection to my Eros and my life force was top priority before I got pregnant and before I had her. And pretty instantly after getting pregnant, it's like that being is now number one priority. Like whether you want it to be or not, really, you know? And so um I just have a lot of personal compassion for that. And I do say the biggest gift of motherhood is that I'm not the most important person in my life anymore. And actually, like, wow, what a what a godsend that is. Like, what a godsend it is to have to think of someone else first. So I want to start with that. But um, I say literally five or ten minutes practice can make the world of difference. And um, I actually have been teaching a class where I do a a practice a week, and a practice, and it's between five and ten minutes. So hopefully anyone can do it. I have moms in the program there doing it. Um, and you know, I think some of the easy, simple places to start are put on one song and dance to it, right? And you can incorporate your kids. Like that's you know, it's beautiful if you can have it before they wake up. Or like my hack is often as soon as Anna falls asleep for her nap, I go do my pleasure practice. I put her down and it's like pretty good because I I don't usually want to do it right away in the morning. Um and so, you know, midday, whatever it is, afternoon, by the time she's going down for her nap, it's like go do that now and then go do the dishes and then go do the emails and then but dance to one song, um, put on a five or a 10-minute timer and just self-massage on your whole body. Um, it can be really beautiful to look in the mirror and look at your body and look at all the changes you've gone through, or look at the places that are hard to accept, or that we judge or criticize, and like just bring touch and like okay, like let's say it's your thighs, like, oh, okay, this is my body. These are my thighs. Like you said, how do we get more present? Like bringing that presence, looking at yourself in the mirror, breathing with yourself. Those are a couple of my top top tips.

Kristin:

Um, oh yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03:

One last thing I'll say. Uh this was I remember one of the first things I started doing again after birth was working with a yoni egg, which people may or may not know what that is, but it's literally a little tiny egg, crystal egg. Um, and the Japanese daikinis really loved those and were who kind of started using them. And it's a tool that both like strengthens and tones and supports just blood flow and juice flow and nervous system flow inside your yoni. Um, and so I started working with my yoni egg again after I had my baby, and um that was really, really good for me. And like literally you can just kind of breathe and consciously breathe the egg into your body, and like that could be your practice for the day. So and then let the egg be in there. And um, it supports with, you know, bringing back lubrication. It supports with kind of finding a healthy, like sometimes after birth, our yoni actually starts working way too hard to like pull everything back together. That's what I felt. Because when people have this myth of like, you're gonna have a baby and you're gonna lose all the tone in your yoni. That's like actually not always true. Or if if there is an over-relaxation, having that egg in there helps make it like an accurate level of tone. Wow.

Kristin:

Yeah. And that it also reminds me, it's a good reminder for me to use mine. Yeah. Yeah. And then um also it just makes me smile because I think of like my former therapist and how she was also very much a guide and and um, you know, sacred sexuality and all that too. She's like, well, and it also she's like, it was a black obsidian. And she's like, I just like you could also use it to get rid of any devil dick energy.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my God. And I just love it. It's a whole nother podcast. Yeah, yeah.

Kristin:

So I was like, it has physical benefits, energetic, emotional, cut cords. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Um, you know, I kind of want to touch on, I guess, a little bit of I have this question here, but like, how does trauma or emotional memory live in the body, or how can the tantric touch help to release or integrate that? Because I, you know, I've had I had several sessions that felt like it was like clearing or or cleansing, and then it became more like pleasurable. Um and I think you had mentioned one time before, and I'd love to reiterate it about how we're formed or like we're an egg and like our grandmother or something. Um and I'd love to speak to that element too.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Yeah, that's good. Those are two good big ones. Um so yeah, I think I think I'll start with the what you said last about like that. We we existed in our grandmother's body and you know, really beyond. Like if you think about DNA and just like how much memory and information lives in our DNA, it's like, how do we know how to chew? How do we know how to swallow? How do we know how to walk? Like, where does that come from? It's from our DNA. Right. And so to think like, okay, how do we know how to speak? How do we know how to relate? How do we know how to have sex? It's like, actually, that's all in our DNA too. And largely, I really largely believe in epigenetics, which is the idea that what our our ancestors experienced gets passed down to us to some degree. And so, um, you know, I know for myself, uh weirdly and interestingly, as a child, I I felt like I could have memories that weren't mine of things that my mom and my grandmother had gone through. And um, and so, you know, like in terms of their sexual trauma. And I had not personally experienced anything like that in my life as a child. And so I didn't understand how I knew that until my 20s probably. But I think that the um idea that we come in like a blank slate is just not accurate. And I think we come in holding a lot and carrying what our moms especially went through, especially as women. Um, and so yeah, so that that I hope that's helpful for some people who have felt like, okay, yeah, why do I have these patterns in sexuality or why do I feel closed or why do I dissociate or whatever it is? Because that can happen even if we haven't ourselves had challenging or unwanted sexual experiences. Um, but then to add on to the second part, if we have, right, which I mean, I think sadly most many of us have, right? Most of us have, and and even from the experience of like we're we're too young and we don't know how to communicate. And so we have an awkward first sexual experience, right? It's like that gets stored in our body.

Kristin:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, and and so, you know, a great book. I really love this book, The Body Keeps the Score, um, has a lot of good information about this. If this is something someone is really wanting to dive deeper into, but um movement, breath and sound and movement are shown to be the most effective way to release like tension in our body. And I believe that that trauma, whether it's our own or the challenges of our ancestors, shows up as tension in our body. Um, and so it's like, you know, I can I can feel my arm over here. And if I if I had a good workout and I didn't work out too hard, it's like there's no, there's no real tension, right? But even the trauma of a workout, right? If I set touch my arm, like, ow, it's sore because I worked out hard, it's like that tension is held in there. And so a big part of um the way that I hold my tantric killing sessions is I look for tension in the body. And we don't often get attention to the area under our undergarments, right? In a massage, it's like, don't take your undies off, or we're gonna cover your bum, or we're not gonna get into your hip creases even. And that whole area of our body can just have so much tension. And so usually through the first few experiences of a session, what people are encountering is finding that tension, whether you want to call it trauma or held energy or literally held memories and breathing, sounding, and even like just moving, right? Because sometimes those areas feel very stuck and frozen. It's like, you know, someone touches your hip and you contract around it. And so it's about helping the body to breathe and release that. And I think those same tools of bringing breath and sound and movement to that tension apply. Whether, you know, what's coming to mind is I'm thinking about this experience. I have no idea where it came from. Maybe it is my grandmother's, or yeah, this is my memory from when I was 13 and this thing happened. Like it actually doesn't matter. And that's what's beautiful too about tantric healing work is that it's so distinct from talk therapy, where we can get a lot of freedom and support ourselves in integrating shame. And I love my therapist, I still see her regularly. But the body, the body doesn't need to know the story. The body just needs help in breathing and moving and releasing. I love that.

Kristin:

Love that distinction. Um, I want to ask this before we wrap up too. If someone is curious but nervous about receiving tantric body work, like I know you just said like about the genitals or like the hit, you know, how many times do we get the opportunity to receive that? Um, but what would you want them to know or feel safe in before exploring it?

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I actually remember telling you this when we first had a call. And I said, look, I'm happy to talk with you. And if any part of you doesn't feel comfortable working with me, don't. I remember saying that to you. I say that to everyone. So the first thing I'd say is only pick a provider, only have a session with someone that you don't have any weird feeling about in your belly or your body. And it could be, you could be picking up on something totally specific, right? Or it just might not be a match for some reason, right? Your friend might have had a great session with this person, but that person's not for you. Like totally trust that. That would be my first thing is that when you find someone you're meant to work with, you might still feel scared, but you won't feel weird about them and weird about the session. Um, and then secondly, you know, I have done plenty of sessions where my clients have stayed fully clothed, right? And it's like you can still get touch or release pressure in in the hips, or you know, if you need that level of easing into things. So don't put pressure on yourself to have your session look a certain way. That would be another thing. Um, and then I guess lastly would be um talk about that fear. Talk about it with your provider, talk about it with whoever you're seeing. Um, you know, probably the same way you were been trained to to hold sessions is we always talk about what do people want, what are what do they not want, what are their boundaries, and what are their fears? I think that's you know, a frame that you probably have. And um, and so going in like, I'm fine, I'm good, I'm ready for this, and inside you're like, I'm so scared about this. I just don't want to say it. It's like again, weaving together, weaving the fears in, looking, well, where does that fear come from? What uh what are you afraid of? Why, why is that important? Let's welcome that in that fear is important too.

Kristin:

Yeah. I definitely talk about like fears, boundaries, and desires, um, intention. And then I've also been playing this game called We're Not Really Strangers for a couple of rounds to kind of like build a little more rapport or drop in, um, like uh be a little more vulnerable, like kind of like set the little tone or I mean we've had a call, but a lot of times there hasn't been much beyond that. And I could understand like the nerves going into something like unknown. It's so brave. It's so brave. It is. I love that you said it doesn't have to look a certain way. Anything else that you want to drop in here before we wrap up or I do have a lightning. Okay, okay. Okay, no, no, I could I I forgot I had this lightning round down here if we want. Okay, unless you go on to something.

SPEAKER_03:

I was just gonna say, um, you know, to to a lot of the world right now and probably people some people hearing this, what we're talking about like is like, what what is this? This seems so wild, so weird, so out there. But I think there's something just so natural about the approaches of Tantra. It's like I think it's unnatural that the world has taught us we have to like totally just hide and lock our sexuality into this box and like only open that box with certain people or in these certain ways. It's like I think they're I really believe that before we got so strange on this planet about power and about money and about, you know, whose resources or whose. It's like I think there was a way that we were way more like able to serve each other and able to accept all of people and accept all of ourselves. And so there's just something about this whole approach in these kind of sessions that feels so like this is the way it should be. Like this is just natural. And whatever we've been doing for the last several thousand years seems really weird to me. Like this is powerful.

Kristin:

I think about like the ancient, like what, like the Isis temples or something like that. About um, I mean, I guess some of this some of the practices are ancient, right? Definitely. And getting people back into their hearts. Yeah. Okay. I have a little quick lightning round that we can go if you want. Okay. Yeah, let's do it. Uh one thing people get totally wrong about Tantra.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that it that it is um just about sexual encounters, like how to have better sex, or that, you know, it's about having sex with your provider, or that's the main thing I think people get wrong.

Kristin:

Um, what's one body part that holds the most unspoken emotion? Hips for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm.

Kristin:

And then current sensual practice lighting you up.

SPEAKER_03:

I've been loving a practice called peaking, which is um really like it's based on the idea from orgasmic meditation. So doing like very simple clit stroking, but doing it for yourself. And you kind of like build sensation and ride up, up, up until you get to either like numb or it's not changing anymore. And then you stroke down, down, down till it kind of does the same thing, gets numb or you know, kind of times out, and then you go up, up, up again. And it's not an orgasmic practice, it's not about edging. It's actually like if you try it, you'll notice like, oh, I do reach this peak and I don't feel more. And then I go down and I don't feel more, and then I go up and I feel even more. It's really, yeah.

Kristin:

Sounds like I have homework. Try it. It's so fun. I love it. Well, where can people find you?

SPEAKER_03:

And or if you have any special offers or anything you want to drop in now, so good. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm on Instagram, live L-I-V Love L O V E Tantra, and my website is my whole name, oliviapavlov.com. And yeah, right now I'm uh really open to a few more in-depth coaching clients. I had several people wrap up their like three or six month deep dives with me this fall. And so I have a few spots open over the winter and spring for people who want to just really go on a deep transformational journey with their body, their intimacy, their relationships, um, through coaching. Yeah. So with not with body work, but just with getting really cool homework practices from me and talking through what's going on. And yeah. She's great. I highly recommend.

Kristin:

I was in one of her year-long programs and I absolutely loved it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Such a joy.

Kristin:

Thank you for being here, love, for listening with your whole heart, for listening to the very end, and for walking this wild path with me. If today's episode stirred something in you, whether a giggle, a tear, or a full-body yes, don't keep it to yourself. Share the magic, leave a review, drop me a note, or send it to a fellow sacred rebel who needs it. And remember, your story is sacred, your desires are divine, and your mess is part of the masterpiece. Keep showing up, keep feeling it all, and keep turning your life into poetry. Until next time, stay wild, stay tender, and stay true to that beautiful soul of yours. All my love, Kristen.