Sex, Drugs, & Soul
Welcome to Sex, Drugs, & Soul—where the sacred gets spicy, the healing gets real, and the self-discovery comes with a side of mischief. I’m Kristin Birdwell—author, mystic, tantrika, story doula, and professional line-blurrer between the profane and the profound.
For years, I thought I had to choose between my wild, rebellious nature and my deep spiritual calling. Turns out, the magic happens when we embrace and integrate the two. This podcast is where we break the rules, shed the shame, and get intimate with our truth—whether that’s through soul-stirring conversations, sensual exploration, or the occasional existential crisis (served with a wink and a cocktail).
I bring you raw stories, deep wisdom, and unfiltered conversations with fellow seekers, healers, and pleasure revolutionaries. We’re talking spirituality, sexuality, self-expression, and all the beautifully messy things that make us human.
So, if you’re ready to rewrite the story, drop the ‘shoulds,’ and live a life that turns you on—welcome. Let’s get wild, raw, and soulfully reclaimed.
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Sex, Drugs, & Soul
60. Rebel with a Cause: Austin Tice on Courage, Consistency, and Catalysts for Change
Are you on the hero's journey of pursuing more? Join Austin Tice and Kristin on a deep dive into self-discovery, entrepreneurship, and growth. This episode unpacks the transformative journey of building NABA—a heart-centered, revolutionary community and social wellness platform geared to transform every aspect of your well-being.
Austin and Kristin navigate the complexities of entrepreneurship, the discipline of meditation, and the art of surrendering to life’s flow. Through heartfelt dialogue, they explore the power of visualization, meditation for self-discovery, creating an expectation of miracles, the excitement of health and community projects, and a life-changing detoxification journey.
Key Takeaways:
- Creating a space for authentic conversations is crucial for community building.
- Perseverance is essential in the face of challenges; everyone experiences doubt.
- Meditation is a powerful tool for self-discovery and emotional regulation.
- Consistency in personal practices may help lead to a sense of worthiness.
Jump to the mic drop moments...
05:07 The Birth of NABA: A Journey into Community Creation
18:15 Choosing to be the Chief Executive of Your Life
21:19 The Mindset of Perseverance
25:10 A Possible Connection Between Worthiness and Consistency
34:39 Safety in Familiarity vs. Growth in the Unknown
54:10 How We Show Up is Impacted by Toxic Burden
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Austin Tice (00:00.941)
Hahaha
Kristin (00:02.563)
That's banger!
Austin Tice (00:04.59)
It's a good one.
Austin Tice (00:09.708)
The kids call those bangers.
Kristin (00:11.962)
The kids? mean you?
Austin Tice (00:15.734)
Yeah, I go to the grocery store and...
Austin Tice (00:21.428)
it out and all the girls up there probably from El Salvador or Guatemala or something and I've spent a lot of time down there I've probably been there 60 or 70 times and so I'm not like proficient in Spanish but I know enough and so anytime I get something that would perceivably be for children like a little box of goldfish
Kristin (00:35.625)
Dang.
Kristin (00:43.315)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (00:51.776)
or whatever, just say, los niños. And then they figured out that I am the kid. That there are no.
Kristin (00:55.153)
you
Kristin (00:59.057)
Yeah, I mean it's like our inner kiddo too. But now they're in on the joke.
Austin Tice (01:04.97)
Yeah, was having to get so fat when I ate goldfish. I eat them every day.
Kristin (01:10.377)
You eat them every day?
Austin Tice (01:13.046)
I would, but I'd get fat.
Kristin (01:15.005)
okay. mean like, you know, goldfish are just one of those things that I never really got behind. Cinnamon toast crunch, yes. Things like that, but goldfish, I don't know. Just never, or Cheez-Its. I have a girlfriend that's obsessed with Cheez-Its and I feel like those are who are kind of related. But I'm excited to have you here.
Austin Tice (01:18.574)
Thank
Austin Tice (01:39.724)
I'm obsessed. mean, I think it's because I had it on my grandparents all the time. So it's like a comfort. Yeah. Yeah. mean, if like Bob Barker prices right, Goldfish.
Kristin (01:44.039)
Yeah. So it's nostalgic. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's probably what my cinnamon toast crunch is.
Kristin (01:58.107)
Do you still watch the... I guess you'd have to like watch it on YouTube or something for bombarker process, right?
Austin Tice (02:06.38)
Well, I guess Drew Carey hosts it now, but I don't watch. I'm over.
Kristin (02:08.569)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, I love supporting and...
Austin Tice (02:15.042)
I don't think Drew Caria.
Austin Tice (02:19.606)
I said, I don't think Drew Carey and I probably see eye to
Kristin (02:23.033)
who knows, who knows? You can still find some commonality somewhere, maybe?
Austin Tice (02:30.998)
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. I have no idea. I'm just as it relates to hosting the show, no one will fill all Bob's shoes.
Kristin (02:38.473)
Yeah, that's true. I like it totally reminds me of my childhood. I was going to tell you, I am adapting to mom life. yeah, I will. Adapting to mom life. Yeah. So I'm pacifying him with a little peanut butter right now. I kind of feel like that's giving him an iPad in some sense. It'll like distract his attention for a little bit. Because I tried putting him in his crate and he started whimpering.
Austin Tice (02:42.222)
So what's going on over there? What are you doing in Austin? Give me the low down here. Where are the rules?
yes.
Kristin (03:07.017)
And so was like, well, I don't really want that in the background. Rules here, there are none. We can go as deep and as vulnerable as you want to go. I kind of crafted like a little, a few questions, but we can also always deviate from those. I was just going to lead in and say that I'm a part of this beautiful community and kind of what it stands for.
maybe talk about creating a course and just that I'm stoked to chat with you today. Ask about like, I'm really curious too about like how the idea came about or like want to be taken to that moment. So I'll ask you about that. And then you said something the other day on a call that I really wanted to touch on. It was about like when people say that they don't ever want to quit and like how to keep going and like what's the mindset around that.
or how to persevere in like those challenging moments. And then heart and mission of Naba. I thought I'd touch on your spiritual practices and like what's your go-to? Do you have a visualization practice and what you're most excited about? I also thought we'd talk about the detox journey, your personal story as it related to it and then our upcoming one. And then I was gonna see if you have any ideas.
Austin Tice (04:27.757)
Yeah.
No, you lead the way. mean, I'm sure it'll go wherever it's supposed to go.
Kristin (04:35.443)
Okay. All right. I might need to pick him up. Today. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Today I am joined by my cohost Boudreaux who has just had some peanut butter. So maybe he'll take a little siesta. And then also Austin Tice, who is the visionary.
Austin Tice (04:38.882)
You're the pro. Let's see.
Austin Tice (04:47.06)
Hahaha!
Kristin (05:05.205)
and Texan, I still call you a Texan even though you're in Idaho, and CEO behind Naba, which is this beautiful heart centered community that I've mentioned on my podcast a couple of times and I'm so stoked to be a part of. I love that I'm creating a course and getting to be at like such a phase of it and really see it grow and thrive. Cause like, I feel like it's going to go to the moon or even Pluto, who knows? So I'm curious, welcome.
Welcome, Austin.
Austin Tice (05:37.262)
Thank you, Kristin. Good to be here with you in Boudreaux.
Kristin (05:40.182)
I know. He grounds me. He's gonna my little marketing dog.
Austin Tice (05:48.974)
For those of us that grew up in the 90s, that's definitely the dog for men in black.
Kristin (05:54.791)
From Men in Black? I never even put that together. my goodness, now I gotta see.
Austin Tice (05:57.389)
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean that anytime I see one of those dogs, reminds me of that dog from Men in Black. At least I don't think I've seen all that in Blacks, but yeah, one of them, that dog was on there. Yeah.
Kristin (06:05.795)
no, I didn't know.
Kristin (06:10.267)
The OG. Now look it up. I, you know, I saw him, I just envisioned him and like putting on some like little doggie glasses and reading some books and stuff like that and maybe having his own social account. Who knows? But I'm excited to have you on here to talk all things NABA, which stands for the natural art of being alive. I'd love to like be taken to the heart of the moment, like where the idea even came about.
like where you were in life physically, all those things.
Austin Tice (06:45.88)
Yeah, well, no, it's a great question. I get asked it a lot. you know, I think the substance of the answer remains the same, but how I answer it has evolved. Just my perspective on where I was at changed a lot. And there's a lot of different emotions anchored in that. But in putting Naba together, I will tell you ultimately what it's become.
Kristin (06:58.536)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (07:15.574)
and what it is now was not the original vision. I don't know that, you know, at least in the two companies I've started the original vision and then the you watch it come to life and evolve. You know, it changes. I think that's what makes any great entrepreneur is not being in love with being right or so in love with the way you think it should be that you're unwilling to adapt and evolve in ways that can ultimately allow.
Kristin (07:35.315)
Mm.
Austin Tice (07:44.32)
what you've created to be a catalyst for real change and transformation in people's lives. And ultimately that's been the bullseye we're after. And so it's been a beautiful journey to be on, very much a macro patient journey, but at the same time, a real sense of urgency, a real focus and a real linear attachment to moving with speed. feel that whenever you marry those
Kristin (07:48.829)
Mm.
Austin Tice (08:12.768)
worlds together of it's a sprint and a marathon at the same time, so to speak, you're able to gain a real feel on the environment, a deeper understanding, gaining the wisdom needed to see the board more clearly, to understand two and three and four and five moves out, what your options are, what the consequences to your.
Kristin (08:16.489)
Mmm.
Austin Tice (08:34.1)
decisions hold. And so that's been a not a unique part of our journey, but one that in this particular one feels like it's been extrapolated out a little longer than others. But, you know, regarding where I was at, I wouldn't say I was retired. I would have never called myself that I was sort of feeling into what I wanted to do next. I was in a really great position with different business.
Kristin (08:59.309)
you
Austin Tice (09:03.97)
decisions I'd made in my life, whether that be riding some of the crypto waves up or having fun trading securities. I never really did that until COVID because I didn't, I felt like all the stuff I loved to do even in business was kind of contracted. So I had all this time, there were no sports on television. And I thought, well, hell, you I'm going to start trading stocks.
Kristin (09:21.577)
Mm.
Austin Tice (09:29.228)
You know, there's a lot of really smart people on Twitter that if you follow and you don't get greedy, you can do really well. And I did. And that's been a lot of fun. I've had a blast in real estate. It's one of my favorite things to do. You mentioned Idaho, have a ranch in Texas, bought a place in Hawaii. And...
Ultimately, I had a lot of fun in my last company. I started with one of my best friends since we were 12. We had a lot of success in the hemp industry and we're involved in that project for just under a decade. So really committed to seeing it out and stepped away at a time that we felt was both right. And that is sort of.
Kristin (10:07.88)
you
Austin Tice (10:12.446)
what created the ecosystem to consider what that next move might be. And in our case, it was creating Naba. Probably one of the hardest things we came up with, Christian, was the name, which has turned into a real strength for us because the acronym is so cool.
Kristin (10:12.777)
.
Kristin (10:16.799)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (10:25.865)
I mean, it's really awesome name. Yeah.
Austin Tice (10:30.29)
but, you know, I wanted, I, you know, I I'm not attached to any of the things that people get real caught up on.
on the edge of their seat emotionally to the degree that it pulls them out of their body and they have a disassociating experience with seeing things and immediately putting them in different political categories. I recognize that we live in a country where unfortunately so many things have been made to be political. And if you think or feel a certain way about these things, you're put into a category of who you are and who you are.
Kristin (10:54.877)
Mm.
Kristin (11:09.435)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (11:11.594)
And I just don't think that things are that black and white. I feel that the way I grew up and with my mom and dad being so involved politically, whether it be in Little League school boards or Little League board elections or actual school board elections or even congressional campaigns, justice of the pieces, county judge, county commissioners. I've just had a front row seat and seen it and the beauty of what government can be. I understand.
Nothing so black and white is what some of the more mainstream media talking heads would lead us to believe they might be. And so as I'm watching things unravel institutionally, whether you look at media and how people get their information, whether you look at finance and banking with what's happening in different regulations or deregulated spaces like crypto, all the way down to people's
Kristin (11:45.696)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (12:04.659)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (12:08.95)
viewpoint of religion and some of the institutions that have influenced how people operate and view reality. I sort of see this as a season of revelation where people are waking up to a lot of things that have kept them operating in the world in certain ways. And I don't see that in a way that's destructive. I see it as a way that can be really beautiful where people can wake up and step into their promise and their potential and
and really not allow so much of their previous histories of what maybe broke their heart to influence their inability to be present. But instead of that being the hand on the wheel, so to speak, getting really present with who you are, who you want to be, who you don't want to be, get grounded in that and not be so afraid to get back into your heart and connect that brain and heart and go do some really cool stuff in the world. And so
And putting NABA together, I wanted to create a community and a space with really just cool people. Didn't care that their beliefs aligned with mine 100%. In fact, what a boring ass place that might be. But just wanted to create a space that welcomed people that were on that hero's journey of pursuing more.
Kristin (13:21.106)
Yeah, like an echo chamber.
Kristin (13:32.338)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (13:33.482)
wanted to know more about why they were here on this planet, wanted to explore more about their relationship with their creator. And here we are. We've got a really great ecosystem of different content courses and partnering with our favorite supplement companies and through this public beta bringing hundreds of people into our community. And I think we have a shot of being a real vestige of hope.
for people that want to change themselves and that want to be a part of helping change the world in some really awesome ways.
Kristin (14:04.147)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (14:09.649)
Yeah, no, I think that there's a lot of hope and there's a lot of opportunity for actions like embedded within the community. Like if you need guidance, if you need support. And one of the things that really drew me to Naba too is that like I totally, of course, like an advocate for free speech and in some places I feel like I'm shadow banned or things. I mention XYZ and I love that one, it's like we're not being sold. And also we can bring and like have
different conversations or we can talk about, you know, quote unquote taboo topics or, you know, bring all of who we are into a space instead of like a fractionalized version of ourselves. Cause I know I have definitely felt pressure and other platforms to show up a certain way or like, you know, especially like in the early days of Instagram or something. Like, okay, I gotta have like the right picture filter, caption, like put so much pressure on that. But it's like really just coming back, I feel like to the truth of who we are and being able to
Have a whole have a space where people feel safe to be authentically themselves and be vulnerable I think that's really dope and that's one of the main reasons that I think it's really dope but there's so many I'm curious like what has been one of the biggest changes from early vision of NABA to what it is now And I also feel like one of the cool things from for me like to being a part of like this stage of it is how open and willing and receptive you are to other people's ideas
And it's like, hey, I think it'd be cool to have like this component or this element. Just, I just want to say kudos to that too.
Austin Tice (15:44.398)
I, well, I appreciate that. You know, that's not always easy to do. I think that's an area I'll always grow. You know, you want to have some semblance of control as it relates to executing on your vision. But at the same time, you want people to be and know that they are a part of that creation process too. That's deeply empowering, not just surface level or just words, but
Kristin (15:48.253)
Yeah.
Kristin (15:56.701)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (16:08.499)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (16:09.418)
sincerity attached to the fact that it's intimately as involved as you want to be in the creation process of bringing this community to life you can be. And so it's a tightrope you walk, but I do my best to listen. And I think that our members have done a great job of offering some really great insight that's allowed us to grow and get better. And I expect that will continue to happen. As it relates to the original vision of NABA,
I never envisioned that it would actually be a community the way that it's evolved into. know, my last company, had, you know, about 175,000 customers. I think total was the number. Could be a little less than that. Could be a little bit more, but let's just call it that. And the community sort of existed in the ether that
What brought us together is we loved the mission of bringing hemp into the world, right? Now, there wasn't an actual like space like Facebook or Instagram or LinkedIn or a TikTok or any space whatsoever that you could come together, share what was on your heart, what was on your mind. And in a very linear sense, the way people were valued
Kristin (17:11.421)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (17:34.442)
was placed solely upon their ability to perform or execute in bringing sales to the table. So imagine bringing 10,000 influencers into the room and only acknowledging the ones that were selling a lot, even though everyone was selling something.
Kristin (17:39.209)
Mm.
Kristin (17:53.971)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (17:53.972)
So it was really easy to be marginalized and made to feel less than if you weren't performing at a very arbitrarily interpretation of what the word high level might be. So in developing and building Naba, as we started creating content, as we started partnering with some of our favorite companies, starting with Quicksilver Scientific, it became really clear to me that if we created an ecosystem that functioned very similar to the LinkedIn or Facebook,
Kristin (18:00.065)
you
Kristin (18:04.517)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (18:23.616)
where intention existed because of the mission we were attached to all the way to on a very personal level, what people wanted to accomplish in their own lives. and didn't marginalize people by only recognizing those that were interested in selling something. It's not to say that that's a bad thing. That's a great thing, but there's a, there's a space for those individuals, but now there's a space for people that if they want to show up and contribute with insight,
Kristin (18:39.74)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (18:53.57)
perspective and wisdom, they can and we value that as much as we do the person that's deeply motivated to go and, you know, bang the knob, knob a gong and promote it and make money and all of that stuff. And so I think that's more forward thinking and is more representative of what some people might call conscious capitalism, where, you know, there's a place for everybody at the table, so to speak.
Kristin (19:13.981)
Mm-hmm
Kristin (19:18.395)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it's an inclusive environment. I remember being bullied before as a kid. I don't want to be shunned out. It's very healing.
Austin Tice (19:24.152)
Yeah.
Austin Tice (19:29.518)
You know, I don't, I know what it's like to be on both ends of that. As I look back at my life, I probably could have done better in both areas, know, stood up for the ones who were and maybe, yeah, not been one, but yeah, I feel you.
Kristin (19:38.478)
yeah. for sure.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I still remember that one moment growing up when I was like, I was part of a circle that, you know, tease someone and then like that haunts me, you know, even though it was also done to myself. But yeah, just always like, I could have shown up better in that moment. So you've been at this for a few years now, right? I am curious. Like you said something on a call the other day about
don't if someone tells you that they never want to quit, they're lying. Or like there's moments of doubt or maybe challenging moments. And so, you know, I just went all in on like all of my offerings. And so there's definitely like a roller coaster. There's a peak experience and I'm like, there's like a challenge like, what did I do? And then going back. I'm so I'm curious, you know, personally, and then just for listeners to like what your perspective is, or like how do you persevere in those challenging moments?
Austin Tice (20:17.698)
No.
Kristin (20:41.129)
What kind of mindset do you hold or what do you default to in those times?
Austin Tice (20:49.71)
Man, you know, I can think back on my career in baseball considering how much I loved it and man, it could be a lot easier to just quit. You know, for me, I don't know that everyone has some of the motivations I have that kept me from quitting. Just thinking about how much I would disappoint people. And someone obviously may say, well, you know,
Kristin (21:09.139)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (21:19.264)
It's not their life, but you know, it is their last name. And that means something to me. And it doesn't make the way I function right or wrong, so to speak, but so many of the moments where it felt like the weight I was carrying was more than what I was capable of. There's a checklist that you go down internally.
And I don't ever even make it to the end of that checklist before I realized there's a way out of this. That the dream that I have.
Kristin (21:46.131)
Thank
Austin Tice (21:54.528)
If I'm co-creating with my creator, why in the world would I have this? If I wasn't going to be equipped, if they weren't already there with the tools and skills and talents, or they were already there, I just had to discover them within myself. Oftentimes, it's just belief, it's thought and emotion that influence your ability to move through anything.
Kristin (22:01.385)
Mm.
Austin Tice (22:24.17)
But when things get tough and you think about, you know, the back door is looking a lot more sexier than the front door right now, maybe I can just ease on out. I think about my last name. I think about my mom and my dad. You know, so much of what motivates me is making my brother, my mom and my dad, my best friends proud. The challenge in my life has been bringing myself up into that person I want to make proud too.
Kristin (22:37.097)
Mm.
Kristin (22:44.999)
Mm.
Kristin (22:51.687)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (22:52.294)
you know, it's, so that's the first part of, you know, the checklist and typically I never really get past that one. I just remember that, you know, I'll figure it out. It'll be all right, but you know, I think it's pretty normal for people to feel a sense of overwhelm. the reason that what you're pursuing is possible is because the place that you're existing is unfamiliar.
Kristin (22:58.121)
you
Kristin (23:19.303)
Mm.
Austin Tice (23:19.818)
And that's where the possibilities of what it is you want to create exist. If it were known, then, you know, what are we doing here? It just becomes a part of the routine. There's an, there's an excitement to it. There's an adventure to it. For me, I think stepping into the world of being an entrepreneur was a natural fit. there's a, there's a feeling that you love that.
Kristin (23:28.361)
you
Austin Tice (23:49.8)
when the game's on the line, you want to be the person that finds themselves in the position to do something about it. And I feel like when you choose to be the chief executive of your life or the chief executive of your business, then inherently you absolutely better have a tolerance for ambiguity and a desire to exist in the land of unfamiliar.
otherwise you're probably fucked. And for me, that tolerance for ambiguity, it's what my every day is. And there's an adventure to it, there's a sexiness to it, there's something romantic about it. Knowing that I get to be the creator of my life, I feel that when you start thinking about quitting, it's because...
Kristin (24:22.841)
Yeah.
Austin Tice (24:44.684)
you ease into a state of being that moves away from creator and into being a victim. And we're all professionals at that. And so that's just a practice you work through. There's no right or wrong about, think, how anyone in a very deeply personal way moves through these things. But that's how I move through them. And in any instant in my life, I've noticed
Kristin (24:50.267)
Mm. Mm. Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (25:11.682)
that if I'm having urges or sensations that would typically bring me to make decisions or do things that I would not look back on and be proud of, then I need to move my energy. I need to change something about my state of being. And there's some processes I work through that do that. I can adjust how I'm eating, and that's more of a macro thing.
Kristin (25:20.839)
Hmm. Hmm.
Austin Tice (25:35.316)
I can adjust, I can go for a walk, I can go for a hike, I can go exercise. I will tell you the single most influential life-changing thing that I've learned how to do is meditate. And I don't approach any meditation from this place of I'm just going to quiet my mind. I approach...
Kristin (25:48.905)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (26:00.456)
my meditation, the second that I put my mask on and I sit in this chair or lay on the floor in front of my desk, that I'm not gonna be the same person I was when I opened my eyes and I expect miracles to take place in the midst of this moment. And I've moved through understanding that I can control my state of being.
Kristin (26:12.777)
Mmm.
Kristin (26:18.008)
Mmm, I love that.
Kristin (26:23.625)
Mm-mm.
Kristin (26:28.477)
Mm-hmm. Mmm.
Austin Tice (26:28.64)
And that's how I think and how I feel. And I can, and I'll, I'll start that meditation and I won't get out of it until it's changed. And you know, you, you don't just sit there and try and think of nothing in order to accomplish that. Certainly that's a part of it, but there's an act of laboring.
for that present moment and getting on the other side of whatever it is that's heavy on your heart or on your mind. And those cyclical thoughts that keep showing up that reinforce the same feelings, that reinforce the same thoughts and get you in this place. And so I know if I sit here and I settle down and that may take an hour, eventually everything chills.
Kristin (26:50.161)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (26:54.867)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (27:05.433)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (27:15.2)
I move on the other side of it and I can just feel everything anchor in. For me, I like to anchor into my heart and with some breath and intention and with the mechanics of the breath and intention attached to it, I get to work. And it's not always easy. It's not always something that I want to do. But I don't think anyone becomes great because they get to do the things they want to do all the time.
Kristin (27:21.511)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (27:30.311)
Yeah.
Kristin (27:41.683)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (27:41.954)
think you become great because in the midst of not feeling like doing something, you do it anyways. And eventually you become that thing that you seek, yeah.
Kristin (27:45.615)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, you show up.
Mm-hmm. So cool. Is it a guided one or now do you go to like, I know you like Joe Dispenza. I like him too. I almost did one this morning. I was like, I'm having a podcast with Austin. I feel like I need to do a daddy Dispenza one. But I'm not perfect and I didn't. I love it. Yeah. Because I don't know, I saw like somewhat a video online and that just makes it more personal for me.
Austin Tice (28:09.516)
never heard him called that, but I'll talk to him.
Kristin (28:20.617)
So I'm like, daddy dispenza It makes it more fun. So are those the ones, some of the ones that you default to or is it just kind of doesn't have to be a guided one now because you've done it so often or, but I just love like the intentionality behind, okay, I am not moving until like I am on the other side of this or I feel differently than when I sat down.
Austin Tice (28:25.474)
sure he would smile.
Austin Tice (28:50.978)
Yeah, know, Dr. Joe talks about one day, one lifetime. And when you approach your day like it's a lifetime, he constantly asks, what would greatness do? What does greatness look like? And at the end of the day, when you review it, the goal would be to say, you know, I'm really proud. And it's an interesting way of what the definition of proud might be for me, because for me, it creates an emotion of worthiness.
Kristin (28:55.209)
Hmm.
Kristin (29:17.737)
Mm.
Austin Tice (29:20.512)
And so it's this interesting thing of what the side effect of showing up is, it's worthiness. And the wild thing about meditation and what I've learned from Dr. Joe is while I might move into that meditation with fervor and intention and a desire to overcome how I feel, to create something new within myself, new within my world, ultimately
Kristin (29:27.369)
Mm.
Austin Tice (29:49.824)
It feels that the channels that are opened, the portals that are opened, the ability to connect and create, exist in one's ability to be worthy of it. And for me, I've noticed that consistency creates an atmosphere of worthiness within yourself. You know, it's just very common sense.
Kristin (30:05.279)
Mm. Mm.
Kristin (30:18.299)
I'm write that down.
Austin Tice (30:18.476)
The more consistent you are, the more, the more worthy you're going to feel like of receiving that, which you want to have in your life. Because if you're honest with yourself and whether you have the discussion, I think we're really honest with ourselves about what we deserve and that's what we're getting. then if I know I'm putting in the work.
Kristin (30:28.681)
Mm. Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (30:46.722)
There's something that shifts. If you just said to yourself, I'm going to do this every day and no one else in the world knows that you made that commitment to you, but you, and you honor that commitment, side effect of showing up for you, man, you start feeling really worthy and your energy starts to shift and your world starts to change. And the reason your world starts to change is because you start to change.
Kristin (30:55.069)
Mm.
Kristin (30:59.465)
Mm.
Kristin (31:10.787)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (31:16.214)
And it becomes a really pivotal experience because you realize you're the experiment. And, you know, that's what Joe has encouraged all of his students to do. I can speak for myself in that as a baseball player for half of my life, every at bat was a little bit different because I would make adjustments based on a lot of variables.
Kristin (31:24.253)
Mm-hmm
Austin Tice (31:45.812)
who was on the mound pitching, how many people were on base, what the score was, how I felt, what inning it was, whatever. You could go down the list of things that would influence adjustments I'm making based upon what the outcome I wanted to create. Well, when you move into these states where you're doing a meditation before you ever go in, what's the game plan?
Kristin (31:58.653)
Mm-hmm
Austin Tice (32:14.24)
What do I want to accomplish here? What do I want to create? And this is a big part of Joe's teaching where a lot of people say, what meditation should I do? Do any of them. And I had to go through that myself. But when you get in there, don't decide what you're going to do then before it ever starts. This is what I'm going to accomplish. This is my experiment today, whether how I'm going to work.
Kristin (32:24.733)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Austin Tice (32:39.726)
my body with my breath, where I'm going to place my attention, how I'm going to move my breath, all of it. And as you begin to experiment, I think you'll notice that that will carry on throughout the rest of the day in your life. And ultimately, the level of consistency that's applied to that, there's just that side effect showing up that is worthiness. It's a really beautiful thing.
Kristin (32:42.674)
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (32:54.897)
Mm.
Kristin (33:07.102)
Okay, I'm gonna make the commitment to myself to do it every day. But it's not just a promise to myself. I've got listeners in you listening and Boudreaux. I think that that's such a powerful statement that the consistency creates worthiness. And interesting to tie like the pride and worthiness like to your family and stuff too. I recently had like a really cool epiphany and I'm kind of working it actually into like some of the
talk or some of the scripting I'm doing for the course on Naba because it was so life-changing. But I actually have this book right here from my dad that he gave me before he died, about a year before he died. And one of the things he talks about or one of the things that asks is like, what were some of the most proud moments in your life? And he's like, well, that would be the day you were born and then the day the day you and your brother were born and the day you graduated college.
And it just, it was only like a few months ago that I had this epiphany that something that I had been working and yearning for my whole life to make my dad proud, I had had since birth. And I was just like bursting into tears. And I was like, ugh. And of course, like I still want to make him proud in other ways today. But I just thought it was like a really cool story that we, that stories can transcend time and something that he gave me in 2012.
had such a pivotal effect on me today in 2024. And it was so cool. I love, there's like this guy, do you know who Peter Crone is?
Austin Tice (34:39.928)
don't think so.
Kristin (34:41.153)
He's super cool, super funny like Brit and he also mentions worthiness and I love looking at it on this perspective too. He's like really when you boil it down, perfectionism and procrastination are two coins or two sides of the same coin and that's worthiness and one of them is an underactive response and one of them is an overactive response.
And I'm like, how many times in my life have I vacillated between both of those? It's like, especially as it pertains to like writing and storytelling, except for after taking a course in Naba, I now call myself a pressure performer. I'm not procrastinating, I'm a pressure performer. But when I'm like, I've been working to meet a recent manuscript and I'm like, okay, maybe I need to just do this a little bit more as I go instead of like trying to cram it in the last couple of weeks.
Austin Tice (35:19.789)
You
Kristin (35:33.865)
It's been fun. But you mentioned the word experiment and I love like looking at it through that lens too. It seems to take a lot of the weight off of it. It's like, I'm like, okay, I'm going to try this and see what happens versus, you know, like it just has like less rigidity, I guess around it. So I love that you brought that to the table too.
Kristin (35:56.443)
And as far as like, go ahead.
Austin Tice (35:56.929)
Yeah.
Austin Tice (36:00.768)
No, I was just going to say, you know, it's just the process that I'm constantly mindful of. And I hold some very personal convictions in my heart around a definition I've been becoming more familiar with, which is what is surrender? And not being so hard on myself in the process of self-discovery.
Kristin (36:09.192)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (36:23.538)
Mmm.
Kristin (36:29.161)
Mmm.
Austin Tice (36:30.092)
You know, I think so many people want things to show up right now. I mean, if that's a lot of pressure, if you want something right now, because when you start on any journey, if you want it now, you're going to soon deal with some level of overwhelm because you realize you are, there's no such thing. It's, it's, it's a journey. It's a part of it. It's, it's, it's a constant unfolding. And so.
Kristin (36:34.087)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (36:46.941)
Hmm
Austin Tice (36:58.018)
Speaking of Dr. Joe, I'll never forget when he said, surrender is a never-ending process of letting go and trusting. And that really gave me permission to move at my own pace and going a little bit further. There's scripture that talks about taking up your cross or dying to yourself.
Kristin (37:06.697)
Mmm.
Austin Tice (37:22.514)
And growing up, my interpretation of that simply meant not listening to that song or as you get a little bit older, maybe not having that extra drink or not smoking that thing or very ancillary things that people choose to do to numb or to sort of let go or relax or whatever. And what's really interesting is
Kristin (37:28.805)
you
Austin Tice (37:50.72)
in my own journey of understanding meditation, ultimately what it's allowed me to become more familiar with is myself. How else if within scripture we are encouraged and taught to take up our cross and die to ourself daily? Are you able to do that if you aren't familiar with yourself? Because while you might not have that drink or listen to that song,
Kristin (38:14.705)
Mmm.
Austin Tice (38:19.176)
Ultimately, that's not addressing the issue. That's addressing the thing that's reflective and exists because of the issue, which is you.
Kristin (38:30.553)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (38:30.794)
And so in my meditation practice, it's become deeply spiritual because the more I get to know me and the more I come up against the place where I'm losing sense of who I am and surrendering more deeply into my creator and truly letting go of the things I hold on to that I find identification in.
Kristin (38:48.551)
Mmm.
Austin Tice (38:55.916)
Typically, that's how you think and feel, which creates the world you live in and those ancillary examples I gave. Man, that's when it becomes a sort of a romance and that you look forward to closing your eyes because you're letting go of you and surrendering more deeply into our creator. And, you know,
Kristin (38:59.057)
Mmm. Mmm.
Kristin (39:14.637)
Mm. Mm.
Austin Tice (39:22.078)
That's been a very personal journey for me. It's been a very scary one. I never thought meditation would be scary, but I think that's why a lot of people, you'd have to pull this up and drop the link and do the research. I don't want to misquote, but there was a study done. I have it saved in my bookmarks on X, but there was a study done. was this room put together and
Kristin (39:28.043)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (39:50.932)
It was a room where there was no sound and people would go in there to see how long they could exist. And very few people could last that long at all because they were just very much having to deal with themselves, their thoughts. And to a lesser degree, the data around how many people can go into a room with a mask on and their eyes closed and stay in there for one hour with themself.
And man, that says a lot. And what I began to realize when this journey of very intimate self-discovery through meditation started with me was how much of myself I wanted to pretend didn't exist. Lose myself in the execution of having success in a business. Lose myself in the execution of having a relationship, going to nice dinners, traveling, whatever.
Kristin (40:38.629)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (40:48.706)
But ultimately I was never going to escape that which was always gonna be there and that was me. And so it's a really beautiful journey. It can be scary because if you're committed to the process, you'll come up against the opportunity to truly let go of what brought you to the curiosity of wanting to know more in the first place and that's you.
Kristin (40:53.577)
Mmm.
Kristin (41:15.574)
Yeah.
Austin Tice (41:15.778)
And how else can you reinvent yourself unless you're willing to let go of the thing that you know is not serving you? And going back to what we talked about earlier, it's that familiar versus unfamiliar. It's the known versus the unknown. And there's...
Kristin (41:29.267)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (41:33.226)
A sense of safety in what's familiar, even though you know it might not be serving you. It's like, you know, those waters, you can navigate that territory. You're a professional and that, and that trauma nonsense. You've got it down. Even though you know, there's some greatness on the other side of that because you don't know it's scary. And so, yeah, it's a, it's a beautiful, beautiful process.
Kristin (41:36.203)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (41:45.896)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (41:54.013)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (41:58.335)
Yeah, I think there's so much.
powerful, mean power in like the perspective too. I was talking to someone yesterday like yeah, they said something like there is no good and bad. It's like riff with there is like we define what that is. And like we define like whether we greet the unfamiliar unknown as or see it maybe as scary or as like a wonderful place where all the opportunities lie. Whenever you said something about surrendering and that being trusting and letting go, I kind of like a slight little chuckle to myself too, because
I feel like one of the lessons I signed up to learn is patience. And I feel like there's an element of patience embedded in that because you're trusting and letting go of like your timeline and when you think something should show up and just allowing it to come in when it's naturally meant to come in. And then as as Boudreaux is in my lap, I'm like, he's definitely helping teach me a little bit of patience, even though sometimes it's frustrating as all get out.
Would you say that like patience is an element or like what role does patience play in that?
Austin Tice (43:06.508)
I don't know, I was sitting there visualizing a Boudreau chilling and being the dog that's actually an alien.
Kristin (43:10.191)
He's still...
Kristin (43:14.537)
He's what? Yeah, he's chilling, surprisingly. so I also want to talk about, I'm curious. So.
Do you weave visualization into your meditations or do you have a separate visualization practice or to identify a certain vision that you're going for?
Austin Tice (43:47.756)
I do, I do. There's some meditations where it's involved and others where it's not. You know, once I really quiet my brain and I'm on the other side of...
Austin Tice (44:05.442)
you know, any of the distortion that any heavy burdens in my heart or crazy thoughts would create. Typically in Joe's work, you know, the thought sends the signal and your heart would draw that signal back into you with an elevated emotion. And so I'm attaching with my breath and a divergent focus.
meaning I'm really sensing the space around me. The more of that you do, the less of your body is going to be involved. You really are just pure consciousness at that point. You're just you. And that's really when you get to do the work. And typically when I'm in that space, nothing couldn't be perfect. It's just it's always perfect. The temperature is perfect.
Kristin (44:58.183)
Mm.
Austin Tice (44:58.414)
The way my body's positioned is perfect, even though I don't even really feel it. I'm just, it's almost as if, you know, everything's just asleep and I'm awake is what it might feel like. And yeah, I'm using my breath as as mechanically as a tool to, you know, really just.
pull into and out of my heart the type of emotion that I want to embody and feel as if that thing that I'm sending the signal out to pull back into me already existed in my life. And it's a reminder that that that I seek is already here. I'm not separate from it. And so that's a part of my, you know, process in
Kristin (45:35.1)
Mm.
Kristin (45:42.179)
Mm. Mm.
Austin Tice (45:51.746)
the middle of sending that signal with a thought, there are certainly moments that sometimes even without me thinking about it, visualization is taking place. Now what's interesting about the underlying intention of my meditations is I've noticed very distinctly that oftentimes there's two paths being forged at the very same time.
there's the path of intention that sits beneath the path of creation. And the path of intention is me being present and how I feel. And on the other hand, the path of creation that I'll get lost in the thought of the visualization of, it's almost as if I forget I'm in the meditation and no longer laboring.
for that present moment and elevating my state of being through my thoughts and feelings, but I get lost in the creation of that which I'm seeking. But in the midst of that, I'll remember I'm in a meditation and I'll pull my attention back to that other path. And what's really interesting is every single time I'm much further along, I'm much more present and I'm much more deeper in my practice.
Kristin (46:48.649)
Mm.
Kristin (46:52.979)
you
Austin Tice (47:08.033)
than I was before I got lost in the visualization of the thought. And what I've learned is that even though I might not be present on my intention, my intention is working on behalf of me. And it's setting the stage for the creation. that's been a really beautiful piece of wisdom I've gained from my work. I think anyone that's...
Kristin (47:12.583)
Mm. Mm-hmm.
Kristin (47:22.183)
Mmm.
Mm.
Austin Tice (47:36.558)
practicing regularly gains knowledge through the things they learn in these very personal spaces that maybe someone else may have read in a book. You won't forget that. And you'll find yourself talking about it the way I am, like you read in a book, no, how did you learn about intention and creation? Well, let me tell you what's happening in my meditation. It's become really clear to me. that makes sense. That's really cool. Yeah.
Kristin (47:42.409)
you
Kristin (47:49.058)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (48:00.501)
Like experientially. Yeah, that's cool. There's been some times I like the
Austin Tice (48:05.966)
And so I really do get it.
Kristin (48:08.539)
Yeah, no, there's been some times where like the morning meditation one with Joe, where like he like said something about leaning into the vision of your future. So there's been some times where I'm like, I'll go in with a vision that I think or then somebody it sounds it's been like a surprise and delight where I was like, I had no that was not something like I constructed. It came from somewhere else. And then like, I don't know where that link and then that would evoke an emotion. And I was just like.
Just like grateful and just like an overwhelming sense of like happiness. I guess that's like that, you know, contact with the divine in some ways that he talks about. That's what it felt like. And so, and then...
loving that too and so I'm like sometimes that one also becomes a vision but it's fun. I'm curious like what are you most excited about right now and then I'd also love to like touch on their like detox journey that's coming up.
Austin Tice (49:09.272)
I don't know, know, this is a, I mean, I'm looking out the windows of my office and it's, I guess it's snowed about 18 inches in the last 30 hours and it's snowing right now and absolutely stunning. so this right now, I think the thing I most look forward to is I, it's my favorite time of year. I love the holidays. I love Thanksgiving.
Kristin (49:14.259)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (49:18.065)
Well.
Kristin (49:29.297)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (49:31.852)
with my family. a big Dallas Cowboys fan, so that won't be nearly as exciting to watch them because they're terrible this year. I love traveling during the holidays, even though a lot of people might despise it. I like being around people. I like seeing all the things happening, people's families being together.
Kristin (49:37.789)
Mmm.
Kristin (49:48.691)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (49:55.614)
And I love Christmas time. It's the best. I have the greatest memories of going to my grandparents' house in the morning on my mom's side, then leaving there and going to my dad's side grandparents. And then we still get together. We do a candlelight service every Christmas Eve. So beyond anything in business, I feel like I like so much of my life is
Kristin (49:57.512)
Mm-hmm
Austin Tice (50:25.93)
so attached to what I've been creating in NABA that when I think about what I'm most excited about right now, the obvious answer is there's a lot of cool shit we're doing in NABA that I'm stoked about. But I love the holidays. I love being around my family. I love traveling in the holidays, seeing all my old friends in my hometown, you know, going to the bar and having a beer with all my buddies that I grew up with, going to my ranch.
Kristin (50:29.198)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (50:35.847)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (50:54.594)
going to the pond, seeing all the cows floating around, know, all of that stuff I look forward to. But, you know, the Naba answer, there's so much that I feel like we've just sort of backed into that I would say is on accident, but it's obviously not. It was supposed to be this way. You know, it's just, we have something so cool.
Kristin (51:14.569)
you
Austin Tice (51:22.548)
Such a cool community, such great people, great content. I feel like the community as it exists now in this smaller cohort, call it 500 people through this public beta, all wants the same things for themselves and they want to see the same things happen in the world. And because we're an American based company, I'll go a step further. They want to see the same things happen in our country.
Kristin (51:36.829)
Mm-hmm
Austin Tice (51:52.258)
They're not living under any type of spell. And there have been many cast in the last five, 10, 15, 20 years of what the world is and what it isn't. I feel like they're people that are awake and they're not attached to, as we discussed earlier, to being right.
They're just attached to getting it right. They love people, they love our country. And they really see NABA as a catalyst to nurture and support people in this movement that is a groundswell happening. And it is a nonpartisan issue to me of, call it what it's been called, making America healthy again.
Kristin (52:13.961)
Mm.
Kristin (52:29.333)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (52:35.02)
You know, and, you know, it's not associating ourselves with any particular party. There's a lot of nonsense that's happened all across the board, but one thing I can get down with undoubtedly for sure, although my last name on it and I'll fight for it all my life is knowing we can do better as it relates to healthcare, as it relates to food, as it relates to our own individual practices around mindfulness and you know, and
Kristin (52:44.609)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (52:54.355)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (53:04.46)
I feel like if we address those things, if we get the heart and the brain and what we're putting into our body, what we're putting onto our body, who we're surrounding ourselves with, if we can address the mental, spiritual, physical, and emotional components of our individual selves, all of these other things that have become political talking points in our country, they'll resolve themselves because the heart of the problem is our health.
And that is a big part of the NOB admission. So moving into 2025, that is what I'm most excited about. I feel that we're going to be very, very, very loud and we're going to make ourselves very well known and an absolute mover, shaker and player in that space. So I'm very excited about that.
Kristin (53:36.487)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (53:55.215)
Yeah, I'm excited. Well, I love both your answers. First off, I love the holidays. I love all of the health-centric aspirations too. It's like, because I have that for myself, of course. Like if I don't have my health, what do I have? And then like, I feel like if I am having some issues or complications in one area,
Austin Tice (53:59.362)
Ha ha ha.
Kristin (54:16.797)
Whether that's energetically, emotionally, mentally, physically, professionally, it bleeds over into another one. And so I just love the idea of optimization from my health and the health of others. And I feel like whenever we do do the work of ourself, I think of a greater tapestry. We're an individual thread, but as we each work to make our threads more vibrant, the whole tapestry shifts and changes. And I just love that too.
And then, yeah, I'm totally ramped up and excited about the detox that we're going to be doing with the community in January because I have been having some brain fog lately. I'm like, is it my luteal phase? Is it like what I've been eating? Like, what is it? So I like the idea of like just cleansing and starting the year fresh because there is just something symbolic for me at that time of year, too. It's like a time to get clear on intentions and goals and aspirations and also just like
hit the reset button. So I love, know you've had a personal story if we want to share a little bit about the detox and then yeah, we can wrap up.
Austin Tice (55:29.282)
Yeah, of course, know, I'll add one thing that came to mind as you were speaking and then dive into few talks and that's, you know, I feel that there are a lot of really incredible people in the world that have beautiful hearts and are high character and that love humans and that are, you know, have so much to give. I feel that
Kristin (55:35.038)
Yeah.
Austin Tice (55:58.296)
People are coming up against a real place of conviction within themselves, where the rubber is meeting the road and they're recognizing that the reason that we're in this situation as Americans is because we've been complacent in the areas that now require us to be courageous. And what's interesting is it's not some uncommon level of courage that's needed.
Kristin (56:19.549)
Mmm. Mmm.
Austin Tice (56:26.828)
It's just the simple approach and it can certainly be vulnerable of getting your heart involved and being able to speak your mind. What will fix the problem is not the same level of consciousness that created it. And in order to evolve and advance our consciousness, it takes the effort of all of our perspectives to create a new one. You know, if you remember,
Kristin (56:43.549)
Mm-hmm. Mmm.
Kristin (56:52.711)
Mmm.
Austin Tice (56:56.46)
that particular scene on, it was in the Dark Knight series where Morgan Freeman was, they had created this supercomputer and what it created was all of these different perspectives that created ultimately a consciousness. It was a little bit of an AI thing before AI was a real talking point in the world. And in order to advance,
ourselves, it's important that everyone's involved because we each bring something that's really important to the table that no one, no, no technology can replace. And that is our very unique vibratory signature of our experience and wisdom. And whenever that's exposed, there's, there's a truth and an evolution. And with that, a revolution that takes place.
Kristin (57:26.432)
Mm.
Kristin (57:37.225)
Mmm.
Mm.
Austin Tice (57:52.018)
And man, that's what I want to encourage people to do is speak their heart, speak their truth, be honest and be open to learning from other people. And ultimately that's, that's what the NABA mission is about is we want to advance and evolve. And we're going to do that because we're going to encourage people to be themselves and not discourage them because maybe they have a difference of opinion on us of something.
Kristin (58:02.919)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (58:15.707)
Yeah.
Kristin (58:19.559)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (58:20.778)
As it relates to the detox with our introduction into the world and taking Naba very much mainstream, it's sort of not coincidental that we're doing that right into January. We'll get Boudreaux on kit too. With the detox.
Kristin (58:39.753)
He's awake now, he's ready for the revolution.
Austin Tice (58:47.924)
Yeah. And the detox is cool because it requires two things unlearning and relearning. So much of how we show up is influenced by the toxic burden that we carry. And those toxins and the emotions that oftentimes coincide with them that we hold in the liver, we are going to in this detox very mindfully.
fluidize that liver, contract the gallbladder, catch it with a binder and release it. There's some kidney support, liver support and a lot of really cool supportive, whether that be adaptogenic blends.
or glutathione supplements that will be there along this 30 day detox that we've put together with our partnership with one of my favorite people, Dr. Christopher Shade over at Quicksilver Scientific. When it comes to detoxification, everyone says they're the best. He really is. Let's just be real. I mean, the dude's next level at getting this out of the body that doesn't need to be there.
Kristin (59:54.995)
He's dope.
Austin Tice (01:00:01.046)
My own personal story, I won't give you the long version, but I was in the 98th percentile in the world of cadmium lead and probably most importantly, mercury. And I felt terrible. I didn't know I felt terrible because I had become such a pro at keeping the water line just beneath overflow.
Kristin (01:00:04.315)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (01:00:24.446)
Mm.
Austin Tice (01:00:24.578)
But anytime little things happened that shouldn't have sent me into a tailspin and how I felt in my brain and depressed and almost as if something wasn't firing on all cylinders, it fell me off. I'll give you a couple of examples. If I were in California and I was around wildfires, the smoke, which most everybody else had a resiliency to tolerate, I didn't.
Kristin (01:00:36.649)
Mm.
Austin Tice (01:00:52.022)
It would completely throw me off. I'd have severe anxiety, severe brain fog. And yes, that is, that is par for the course with being exposed to a toxic environment. But man, I'm like, dude, I'm 30 years old. I should, I should be able to handle this more, more, more gracefully.
Kristin (01:00:52.135)
Mmm.
Mmm.
Kristin (01:01:12.08)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (01:01:12.162)
And the reason I couldn't was because I was already carrying such a toxic load. And the reason I wasn't aware of the toxic load is like the frog that gets slowly boiled over time, as opposed to the frog that's thrown into the boiling water would jump out slowly over time. had developed this toxic load. As I got to know Dr. Chris Shade, he worked with me while he was developing this advanced push catch and,
Kristin (01:01:25.577)
Mmm.
Mmm.
Austin Tice (01:01:39.19)
It took not that long for that energy to shift. And what was crazy is it changed my life. I now don't, I don't trip out if I'm going to a place in a city where the air quality is horrible. I don't want to be in there long, but I know I'm not going to have this spider flight experience in my body. And I've just developed a more mindful relationship with my liver.
Kristin (01:02:00.413)
Mmm.
Austin Tice (01:02:06.682)
with my kidneys, with different parts of my body that not only did I not have a relationship with, I didn't even know that where they were at, you know? And so, it's just a really beautiful experience to let go of things you don't have to hold onto, whether that'd be toxins or emotions. And what's crazy is when you let go of toxins, you're carrying
Kristin (01:02:14.89)
Hahaha
Austin Tice (01:02:31.82)
Whether that's pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, if you live around a golf course or if there's glyphosate being sprayed in your front yard or God forbid you're eating foods that are exposed to it all the way to fluoride in the water, to microplastics, to molds, to heavy metals. Go down the list. When you let these things go, you'll realize you're now no longer under the obligation to show up as the person you had to, to respond and survive in that environment because it no longer
Kristin (01:02:40.136)
Mm.
Kristin (01:02:45.137)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (01:03:01.814)
exist. So you will in fact be a different person. This detox will remove the distortion that dulls your light and how you show up in the world. It's a really, really cool thing. the sort of anecdotal thing that happened to me beyond the ones that I would say changed my life, this one didn't, was I had really, really, really dark brown eyes.
Kristin (01:03:02.257)
Mmm.
Kristin (01:03:06.835)
Mm-hmm.
Kristin (01:03:13.764)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (01:03:28.3)
And when I detoxed heavy metals and mercury on any given day, my eyes are light brown. You can probably see that now to the degree that sometimes they're Amber and they were dark brown before I detox these heavy metals. Now it's sort of like a parlor trick, so to speak. That's not something we're going to put on the website. No, Hey, your eye color is going to change, but it's just, you know, move into this new year with an expectation of
Kristin (01:03:28.424)
Hmm.
Kristin (01:03:38.269)
Wow!
Kristin (01:03:44.901)
Yeah.
Kristin (01:03:50.761)
you
Austin Tice (01:03:57.738)
I'm going to change my life. I'm going to be a difference in how the world changes. I saw a guy speak at a church I was at about eight years ago. His name was Eugene Cho. has a place up in Seattle. He wrote a book called Overrated. And I'll never forget one of the lines in the book. He said, everybody wants to talk about change in the world, but nobody wants to talk about change in themselves. What a...
Kristin (01:04:00.232)
Mm-hmm.
Austin Tice (01:04:24.406)
What a really beautiful time and what a stereotypical time to embrace to start that change in the new year. We will have not only all of the supplements to support you, but community support, weekly live sessions, a lot of hours, multiple hours of evergreen content, meditations for you to do. And it'll be a really, really cool thing to be a part of. So obviously everyone is welcome. We'd love to have you.
Kristin (01:04:28.569)
Yeah.
Kristin (01:04:52.987)
Yeah, I'm stoked. I didn't even realize exactly. I'm like, what might have been impacting some of my things. You have been having some experiences of anxiety the last several months where I felt like it had increased. And so I'm like, huh, maybe it's not just like me. Maybe there's something else that I need to flush out. Yeah, well, thank you. a tremendous amount of wisdom and mic drop moments.
Austin Tice (01:04:57.161)
Hahaha
Kristin (01:05:21.565)
So I appreciate you and thank you for coming on and sharing your story, sharing the story of NABA and just co-creating with me and Boudreaux, who is now awake and probably needs to go poop.
Austin Tice (01:05:29.678)
Yeah, I appreciate you too.
Austin Tice (01:05:34.693)
I'll be in Texas for Thanksgiving and I'll actually be flying into Austin on Sunday.
Kristin (01:05:40.133)
On Sunday. yeah, that's right. Well, I'll be here for, I don't know, till Tuesday or Wednesday. Then I'm going to go see my fam, take a little road trip with Bujro and then I'll be back like the fall after the holiday. But I would love to see if we can.
Austin Tice (01:05:55.95)
but yeah, we'll set something up and thanks for having me on. It was a lot of fun. We'll have to do it again soon.
Kristin (01:06:00.731)
Yeah, I'd love to. Okay, bye.
Austin Tice (01:06:03.214)
All right, bye, Boudreaux.