Sex, Drugs, & Soul

58. Surrendering to Seasons: How to Embrace Growth & Healing with Nadia Yakan

Kristin Birdwell Season 2 Episode 15

In this episode, Kristin and Nadia Yakan dive into the interconnectedness of nature, spirituality, and personal growth. They explore the significance of seasons, the importance of surrendering to life’s changes, and how embracing both light and darkness within ourselves leads to healing.

The duo also discusses the power of dreams, full moon rituals, overcoming self-sabotage, and balancing fear and love. Join them for a heartfelt conversation on trusting the journey, celebrating small victories, and fostering self-acceptance and mindfulness on the growth path.

Jump to the mic-drop moments:
6:07 Dreams as Messages from the Universe
15:00 Manifestation and Overcoming Self-Sabotage
22:25 The Power of Self-Love and Validation
28:57 Navigating Emotional Depth and Healing
47:19 Fear and Love: A Duality in Growth

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Kristin (00:03.27)
so good to see you!

Nadia Yakan (00:04.648)
It's good to see you too! You look so beautiful and sunshiny. I love that. It is winter time over here, so the sun has gone to sleep for the day.

Kristin (00:09.69)
thank you, the sun is sunning over here. I just closed my blinds.

Kristin (00:21.788)
Yeah, you know, it's like seven it was 75 today here like beautiful. Yeah, forget you're from here

Nadia Yakan (00:26.994)
my goodness, I miss that. I miss that sunshine. Yeah. I know my mom's always like, come back to Texas. I'm like, honestly, that weather definitely is enticing. Not yet, but it just this week, it got really cold here in Pittsburgh and it's rainy and wet.

Kristin (00:41.425)
Is it snowing there yet? Okay.

Nadia Yakan (00:50.894)
and the leaves are all falling, which I love the colors of fall, so I do love that, but not quite snowing yet. yeah.

Kristin (00:55.066)
Yeah.

I like all seasons too. No, I love seasons and like the symbology, letting go. shit.

Nadia Yakan (01:05.077)
Yes, yes, absolutely. I was just journaling about how like being a part of nature is also allowing ourselves to let let go of things as trees let their leaves fall and as they prepare for winter and which then leads to us being able to plant seeds for the spring. So it's all very interconnected in the season. So I do like being a part of all four seasons rather than just like

Kristin (01:15.196)
Mmmmm

Kristin (01:26.554)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:33.751)
hot and less hot.

Kristin (01:33.763)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. It really is. One second. I'm going to check and see if my gremlin is moving.

Nadia Yakan (01:43.661)
Yeah, you're cutie patootie.

Kristin (01:47.138)
Yeah, I think he's still asleep. We get the rest of or most of the rest of his vaccines today. So they said he might be down for the count. I thought I heard a whimper. I'll have all the things now. Mom guilt.

Nadia Yakan (01:55.053)
No.

Nadia Yakan (01:58.826)
no, it's okay.

Kristin (02:05.1)
But I would yeah, you know, and I know we have like a couple of ideas of what we would chat about Maybe I'll bring it up whenever we talk about trusting and surrendering because he's helping me with that. Although sometimes I'm like grasping your clutch Big spiritual initiation he is

Nadia Yakan (02:16.651)
Like bully. That's how it always goes though. feel like we like enter into these things and we're like, okay, here we are. I'm loving light. And then it's just like, okay, band-aid or it's.

Kristin (02:33.96)
Yeah, as I give him, you know his little his bone or his peanut butter to me that's his iPad Like here distract yourself Yeah, so were you getting some cards ready for us is that okay

Nadia Yakan (02:42.379)
Like take that, take it away. I love that, that's so sweet.

Yes, I was getting some cards. I had already called upon kind of the Archangels and for guidance for the collective and kind of this card just popped out and kind of asking for like, what what does the collective need to know right now? I like to cleanse with

Kristin (02:59.375)
Mmm.

Kristin (03:03.164)
Mm.

Kristin (03:08.207)
Hmm.

Nadia Yakan (03:16.829)
smoke and I also like to test the spirit guide so that card popped out and put it back in and see if it comes out. Because you know, sometimes I'm like, you know, what do we want? What do you I want clear and direct messages and I don't know if it's like a happy accident or if it's something that's meant for the collective to hear these cards though. I really love these cards. One of my girlfriends, she got them for me. They have these spirals on it. They're they

Kristin (03:17.786)
Mmm.

Kristin (03:23.103)
cool.

Kristin (03:33.925)
Yeah.

Kristin (03:43.244)
Ooh, that's pretty.

Nadia Yakan (03:45.833)
come from Ireland. They're made by Sinead de Hora. I probably said that wrong because it's Gaelic, but she made these cards and they're oracle cards and I love oracle cards because they give clear direct messages, whereas tarot readings are like, let me uncover the secrets via a treasure map.

Kristin (03:52.623)
Mmm.

Kristin (04:00.484)
Me too.

Kristin (04:08.16)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, I tried ordering a, I ordered like some TikTok guide me. I ordered like a blind date with a deck thing. And I thought, you know, maybe I actually know, I think I did order tarot because I didn't have a tarot deck. And then I got it and I'm like, yeah, don't know. This might be a gift for someone. Cause I'm like, I like my.

Nadia Yakan (04:28.999)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (04:33.928)
Here it is. I love it. And I set the intention to work in threes for this round. Because I like working in threes. So the first couple cards, so I asked what the collective needs to know right now for their highest good. And the first

Kristin (04:35.404)
Okay, cool. Here's my little reading. Yeah.

Kristin (04:47.356)
I love it.

Nadia Yakan (05:01.319)
card that popped up is this beautiful purple, which is kind of in alignment with your third eye, so a lot of intuition. And the card says, dreams, pay close attention to your dreams. Your angels and loved ones are healing and caring for you when you sleep. Notice how you feel when you instantly awaken before your mind wanders in thought. This is your truth. Embody the love that you feel inside.

Kristin (05:04.986)
Mmm.

Kristin (05:12.932)
Mmm.

Kristin (05:30.332)
Hmm.

Nadia Yakan (05:30.403)
embody your inner peace. Yet let your dreams show you the way. I resonate with that.

Kristin (05:36.092)
Mm hmm. I do too. Although man, I don't know if it's my melatonin or what. I've been having some freaky ass dreams. Like murderous ish or like, or like there's hiding murders or I'm running away from a murder. There's like, yeah, I'm like, I have a very active dream land.

Nadia Yakan (05:44.102)
Hahaha

Nadia Yakan (05:56.23)
You're like, what is this?

Kristin (06:01.584)
When I asked for like clarity, I guess that intention before I would sleep the other night I was like, okay, if I'm supposed to like have lunch with this person, you know, I would like to receive clarity while I sleep. I had murderous dreams. I'm like, this doesn't know.

Nadia Yakan (06:02.15)
with them.

Nadia Yakan (06:16.966)
Like, okay, death or rebirth? Are we hiding from this death? are there like, what's going on? Murderous dreams, hiding. That is so funny. And it's funny because my dreams lately have also been very vivid and very like, but usually I wake up and I remember them. And these last few times I've woken up and really not like kind of remembered. I remember the images of the flashes, but then it just like goes away.

Kristin (06:28.988)
Yeah.

Kristin (06:32.764)
Mmm.

Kristin (06:40.144)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (06:46.662)
So I like that reminder to, you know, right before we awaken, like just really sit in that stillness to before we let our busy days like take us away because our mornings are for ourselves. We have to find those moments and pockets of truth to experience our magic so that when we're navigating the chaos, beautiful chaos of the day, we're able to like, okay, yeah.

Kristin (06:54.918)
Mmm. Yeah.

Kristin (07:04.284)
Mmm.

Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (07:15.286)
I am me. I am okay. I am magic. Yeah.

Kristin (07:17.872)
Mm-hmm. No, I feel that I love having a slow morning It's like I don't even have calls if I can help it into like 10 or 11 at least so that I can like really ease into it I'm like lately I've been getting up earlier than normal with him with my pup, but

Nadia Yakan (07:26.304)
Yes, that is that is my dream honestly talking about let your dream show you the way that is my dream for sure.

Kristin (07:45.306)
Yeah, I tend to, yeah, like base it around that. But I like to set myself up. And especially if I'm pouring into other projects or things or people I like to pour into myself. And yeah, and like, and be, and just chill for a bit.

Nadia Yakan (07:48.94)
I love it. I love it. He's so cute.

Nadia Yakan (07:57.324)
Yeah.

Yes, yeah, because you have to pour into yourself and give it from a full cup rather than from an empty cup. Otherwise, the things that we wanna pour into for other people or other projects, they're coming from a place of lack, which could potentially lead to burnout or resentment or frustrations. And when the cup is overflowing, it's like, everything's easy, all is well, because I'm good.

Kristin (08:17.179)
Yeah.

Kristin (08:21.271)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (08:29.834)
Y'all will be good.

Kristin (08:29.907)
Yeah, I was feeling that hardcore yesterday. I was like, I need to work on this project. But you know, I felt a sense of obligation to do that. To meet a goal that I set for myself. So it's flexible. But yeah, I was so tired.

Nadia Yakan (08:38.209)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kristin (08:48.118)
And so I beat myself up a little bit and I was like, no, I don't want to go into it like from this energetic state. I want it like, maybe I'll just like when he goes for a nap, take my bath and just chill out. Yeah. I love that. Pay close attention to your dream.

Nadia Yakan (08:53.322)
Yeah, yeah.

Nadia Yakan (08:57.954)
Yeah, absolutely. I love it. Yes, and let your dreams show you the way. I also really love the line of embody the love that you feel inside, embody your inner peace, especially right now with the Taurus full moon, just being really like grounding very much like illuminating what no longer serves us. And I'm pretty sure Pluto is

Kristin (09:11.856)
Yes.

Kristin (09:19.066)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (09:28.098)
Pluto is going into Aquarius or something is happening. Yeah, so here we go. Buckle up.

Kristin (09:31.758)
Yeah, I think so for like 20 years or Yeah, I heard on the 19th things are about to get real good for me according to one of my readers I have a torus stellium and so I'm like I'm feeling some stuff

Nadia Yakan (09:46.945)
And I'm also positive that Saturn just is coming is going direct and Saturn is like the karmic planet too. And one of the questions that like came up was to journal about was like, okay, what what have I like let go of that no longer serves me or what am I holding on to that?

Kristin (09:58.812)
Mmm.

Kristin (10:09.084)
Mm.

Nadia Yakan (10:14.618)
is no longer my obligation or my responsibility. That has been a big thing. So I really love the reminder to embody that inner peace and that love. The third one, that second card, cause I have 200 ones that come up is this one's a solar plexus. I love that color. Yeah, they're all supposed to be.

Kristin (10:16.987)
Mmm.

Kristin (10:23.292)
I like that. Yeah. Make a note of that. Yeah.

Kristin (10:35.54)
Mmm. I like that they're different colors.

Nadia Yakan (10:40.808)
resonant and connected to the different chakras in your body. And so sometimes with these cards, what I'll do too is I'll leave them out after a reading. And honestly, I love healing. I love spirituality because it could be whatever.

Kristin (10:44.383)
Okay.

Kristin (10:55.03)
shoot! It's okay. This darn thing that I have for my... My chiropractor told me to get it and rest my hand on it or something. But... Yeah, it's not working. I'm gonna put that over here.

Nadia Yakan (11:08.895)
She said, not today. She went. I love it. But no, I just love healing because it can be whatever you want to be. Like I think that was something when I came into card reading was like, I have to do it a specific way like everybody else. But

Kristin (11:31.77)
Mmm. Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (11:33.904)
As long as I cleanse the space before and after, I've realized I can meditate with the cards and really align them with the chakra as well. So I can like visualize the energy going to the card and to myself, which I really love. But this card is lyrics. So we have to pay close attention to our dreams and pay close attention to the angelic messages you hear in songs.

Kristin (11:39.481)
Mmm!

Kristin (11:53.337)
Kristin (12:01.788)
Wow.

Nadia Yakan (12:03.462)
Your loved ones are communicating with you through music. Listen for their signs. Remember to use music to uplift your energy. Also these cards, the actual cards are really beautiful.

Kristin (12:19.184)
lyrics.

Nadia Yakan (12:20.275)
Yeah, lyrics. And I do feel like once you listen for the signs, you see the signs, you see them in movies, in books, in lyrics, like sayings that pop up in our heads. So really a lot of energy of like, you know, uplifting our energy, but also paying attention.

Kristin (12:29.904)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (12:36.422)
for sure.

Kristin (12:42.96)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (12:43.216)
is really fun. And then the final card that was on the bottom of the deck is 333

Kristin (12:49.379)
Nadia Yakan (12:51.228)
which I love 333, ask your ancestors, angels and spirit guides for their support. More study is needed now. Be patient as you go within to hear their answers. Allow their wisdom to flow through you. So this whole collective reading is very much going inward, paying attention and knowing that your ancestors, angels and spirit guides are all here and wanting to support. There's

Kristin (13:14.424)
you

Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (13:19.964)
study that's needed, some sort of like analyzing of what is being said to us, either in our dreams or through the music, through dancing or as we're meditating, those that study, whatever is being illuminated is for a reason for us to kind of make that next right step to this new phase, because as the full moon comes, it ends and begins a new a whole new cycle. So

Kristin (13:39.845)
Hmm

Kristin (13:48.838)
Beautiful. Beautiful. Now, I love it. So do you have any full moon rituals that you do?

Nadia Yakan (13:50.017)
I love that. That's a great reading. That's fantastic.

I do. So I like to put out all of my crystals and cards. Yeah, I put them all out. My mom puts them out on her balcony, like on plates and stuff, but I don't have that. I'm afraid that someone might come and take my crystals, which at the same time I'm like, okay, well maybe that was the end. Thank you, crystals. Thanks for giving me that.

Kristin (14:01.966)
yeah, that's a good reminder.

Kristin (14:09.156)
Yeah.

Kristin (14:13.916)
We'll take them.

Kristin (14:19.813)
Hahaha

Kristin (14:25.912)
That reminds me of a funny joke. A friend of mine was getting arrested and he had a couple crystals in his pocket or something and he was like, I thought this was supposed to protect me from negative energy. Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (14:43.218)
Dang it!

Nadia Yakan (14:47.641)
My partner, he calls them my stoning stones. He hears them jiggle in my pants. He's like, those are painful if you're not careful.

Kristin (14:51.132)
You

Nadia Yakan (15:00.666)
Like yeah, they're my sonics. I mean look at this one. This one's literally like you sit on that wrong So I think We can all get creative here anything could be a sex toy if we really look

Kristin (15:01.084)
is so funny.

Kristin (15:07.27)
I'm yeah.

Suddenly become some kind of sex toy.

Kristin (15:19.277)
Yeah No, know man dude, but Buddha was like chomping on some rocks the other day And I was like you are you like your mom you like those rocks? Can't blame you yeah, just don't swallow one of those fuckers Yeah, did God I was like no we're not today no trip to the vet today

Nadia Yakan (15:26.803)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (15:34.553)
the apple. I'll shut my hand down real quick.

Kristin (15:48.289)
Like that one's a little small So I got him a big one and I put it in his crate So that I was like, you go. You can't solve that one

Nadia Yakan (15:49.144)
my god.

my god. There you go. That's like the chicken from Moana. The like always eating the rocks. I love that. That is so funny. But other full moon rituals, I think the biggest one is just recharging. I like to take full moon baths as well and like really call upon the energy of the moon itself to smooth out my energy.

Kristin (16:12.334)
Yeah. Mm hmm.

Kristin (16:20.206)
Mmm.

Mm.

Nadia Yakan (16:23.255)
and illuminate what I need. And I also call upon Mama Gaia's abundant waters. And then I add like little essential oils and things. Those are my biggest ones. I wanna make full moon water, but I really have just not done it. Some people do it, but I really have not felt called to make it.

Kristin (16:33.294)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (16:40.324)
Yeah.

Kristin (16:45.02)
Yeah, I think I've only done it once. A long time ago, a while ago. Yeah, I think the last few full moon, I've totally forgotten to charge anything, do anything. Yeah, like the next day I'm like, well, guess there's the next one.

Nadia Yakan (16:48.213)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (16:56.369)
Just like, here we are.

Nadia Yakan (17:02.226)
yeah well i also feel like we feel the we really feel like the energy of it on the day before and the day after too so sometimes if i forget that there's a full moon or a new moon the next day i'll be like okay this is my new moon now like i'll set my

Kristin (17:10.418)
Yes.

Kristin (17:19.763)
You know, in my day, yeah. And I feel like people do drive crazier on the full moon. And my dad used to say like that they drove crazier on the full moon. People act in a fool.

Nadia Yakan (17:28.09)
Yeah, yes. On that full moon, exactly. My mom will also say like not to, she purposely won't go out on the full moon or if, if there is a full moon. Yeah, like just being careful or not being out too late because it is that kind of werewolf energy. And I think that comes from people navigating through the universe unaware, like not, yeah, unaware from what they're experiencing. So it's just like,

Kristin (17:37.372)
Mmm. yeah, I don't think I will

Kristin (17:50.799)
Mmm.

Kristin (17:56.518)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (17:57.673)
the healing and the messages and the energy is affecting everyone, but not everyone understands or has the clarity of what that necessarily is. And so that's where I think a lot of that chaotic like energy can come from is because all of this stuff is moving around and some people don't really know what it is or what to do with it because they have, they didn't feel called to it or

Kristin (18:02.556)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (18:09.071)
Yeah.

Kristin (18:14.778)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (18:26.992)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (18:27.497)
they may not even know that it could exist because of any other background. Like some people, they grow up and they're not, they take the kind of projections of their family and feeling like, you know, there's only one path and there's only one way of being. And that could really lead to a whole myriad of things. just cause you don't believe in it doesn't necessarily mean that things are not affecting us. Yeah.

Kristin (18:44.287)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (18:51.418)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (18:55.374)
It can't be true. true, yeah. Yeah. I haven't discovered it yet. You know, occasionally the crystals, and I will put them on a plate out here, because I have like a little yard. I feel safe. But sometimes I do get paranoid with certain things. Like all my doors are locked for sure.

Nadia Yakan (18:57.682)
You know? Yeah. What about you? Do you have any full moon energy?

Yeah.

Kristin (19:19.066)
You know, yeah, and then sometimes I'll journal or I'll do some journal prompts. I don't know if that's like anything like out of my typical, you know, routine or regimen. Yeah, sometimes like I'll journal in the morning, sometimes I'll journal in the evening. Or if like I just feel like a little heightened anxiety, sometimes I just need to get something out on the page and like even just like acknowledging it and writing it down just like.

Nadia Yakan (19:22.695)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (19:28.209)
Right, right.

Nadia Yakan (19:32.467)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (19:37.223)
Yes.

Kristin (19:40.092)
There's so much release there and it takes it from swirling just to a little more clarity around it. I like to pull Oracle cards, but I like to do those every day. I don't do them every day, but I like to do them a lot. I just got a new deck too by, I think it's a Kyle Gray deck. then yeah, baths occasionally, but I wrote down whenever he was talking about oils, I'm like, yeah, I'm out of Epsom salts. Cause I took my bath.

Nadia Yakan (19:41.747)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (19:46.621)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (19:50.683)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (20:04.572)
Yet.

Kristin (20:05.604)
last night and use the last one. was like empty the bag. I'm like, cleanse my spirit. Yeah. I got, it's awesome. There was like tourists. You're going to be, you might be heightened or effective. was like a freaking three and three planets and tours. And yes, three planets, I think in tourists and Capricorn.

Nadia Yakan (20:09.127)
Yeah.

Like, we need...

We need this!

Nadia Yakan (20:26.354)
333

Kristin (20:35.492)
yeah, and then, yeah, I think that's about it. You know, I feel like sometimes I do think about letting go more for full moon, intention setting for new moon, that sort of thing. Yeah, and I totally didn't have any awareness of this. Like growing up, was definitely, this wasn't on my radar for sure.

Nadia Yakan (20:45.617)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (20:54.349)
No, no, not at all. And I think it's so fun to to like meet different people as we navigate through life and seeing how at some point or other the people that I have come into contact with they are like, yeah, I had no idea. I just was bumping along one day and then I read either like the secret or I did this or I met someone and

Kristin (21:00.592)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (21:17.328)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (21:20.529)
every single person that you meet like also deepens the wisdom as well, which I think is just like so, so special too. But yeah, The Secret was like the first book that I ever read. I read it in, I think my mom had me read it when I was in high school.

Kristin (21:20.71)
Yeah.

Kristin (21:24.358)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (21:31.923)
Ooh, when to read it?

Kristin (21:38.588)
Dude same like I you know and I knew I was like whenever we met we met at a friend's wedding this past July just for context and then Yeah, I just loved your wisdom and the language the way you worded things was like girl. You gotta come on So she made so your mom had this spiritual new ageish flair right or okay, I Don't know if it's called new age anymore, but you know, yeah Yeah, yeah

Nadia Yakan (21:52.29)
Yeah!

Nadia Yakan (21:57.464)
Yes, yeah. yeah. Yeah, she did. She for sure did. I mean, I resonate with that. Yeah, she was my, I like to say she taught, she was the first person to teach me how to manifest and really laid down the foundation of like the thoughts that we think and the things that we say create and are physically manifested in our lives.

Kristin (22:11.9)
Mmm!

Kristin (22:24.389)
Mm-hmm

Nadia Yakan (22:25.473)
And as a kid, I think about that, I think back on when I was a little kid, I was manifesting things at the drop of the hat because we're young and we're fearless. We're just so ready to experience our light and love and because everything is new. And and I think about now, sometimes it can be hard for me to manifest things. And I ask myself why, like what is blocking me?

Kristin (22:36.86)
Mmm

Kristin (22:52.516)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (22:53.337)
from physically creating this into 3D, into this realm. And a lot of the times it's like my own doing, it's my own fear or my own insecurity. Or sometimes it's not even anything that has to do with me. It's something that I've been carrying like a philosophy or a lack feeling or thought that I took on and carried from.

Kristin (23:15.75)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (23:20.254)
navigating through high school or college or trying to fit in with society. And what I've really loved about like reading the four agreements now. And I'm also reading the mountain is you right now. And that one is really dives deep into like self sabotaging, like how we can self sabotage, but we are also the key and letting go of like the things that

Kristin (23:29.562)
I love that book.

Kristin (23:33.948)
Ooh.

Kristin (23:39.492)
Hmm

Nadia Yakan (23:46.177)
we have been holding on to that have nothing to do with us anymore. just, yeah. So that is one thing that I've really enjoyed kind of continuing to grow from like little high school, middle school me who was like, yeah, I could just manifest whatever I want. Like.

Kristin (23:59.516)
For sure.

Kristin (24:04.398)
Yeah, you know, there's been times in my life where it's definitely come with a lot of ease or I'll say something I'm like, shit. Definitely like abracadabra words or spells. That's why I'm pretty careful about the language that I use. Although sometimes, you know, definitely I can get it like a little streak. But yeah, I was thinking as you're talking about like why has it shown something's shown up lately? You know, I've been focusing on a lot of like financial abundance and I think maybe it's like a lot of the attachment or awareness that it isn't here yet. I just need to lean into it.

Nadia Yakan (24:09.706)
Yeah!

Yeah!

Kristin (24:34.254)
Like it's already here. That's like the energy I need to feel. But then also I'm like, and then I wrote down sometimes being around other people that are I'm like, I've got to be a little more discerning.

Nadia Yakan (24:35.466)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yes. I love that.

Nadia Yakan (24:49.673)
Yes, it's so true. And as we were going through high school and through every chapter of our lives, we learned how to use our discernment and stand up for ourselves and have those boundaries. And I think about high school a lot because there was a lot of bending that I did to bend myself into knots to make myself accepted, quote unquote, by others and

Kristin (25:10.586)
Mm-hmm.

Mmm... Mm-hmm...

Nadia Yakan (25:17.341)
it receive outward validation. And recently, the clearest clarity that I've ever received is just that that is nothing. That means absolutely nothing. It only weighs us down. The most freeing feeling is receiving the self-love and the self-validation. when we're, yeah, we have to. And when we're aligned with that, we can,

Kristin (25:38.556)
For sure, for sure. You gotta start there.

Nadia Yakan (25:45.542)
absolutely make anything happen because then we're like, the only opinion that matters is mine. The only thing that matters is if I'm happy and then the rest will follow. Like there's something to that.

Kristin (25:56.75)
Yeah.

then your people will find you like your the people around you a little like maybe shape-shift a little bit or like the people are you know there might be some like falling off and and I remember feeling like you know that was harder for me growing at least like because I would like have attachment to like past stories or past memories and I'm like we've experienced so much life together but that doesn't always dictate that we're gonna spend a lot of life together in the future and you mentioned like self-sabotage too and that's what I've definitely done that in like a myriad of different ways

Nadia Yakan (26:03.272)
Yeah, yes.

Nadia Yakan (26:14.602)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (26:20.744)
And then, yeah.

Nadia Yakan (26:27.466)
Mm.

Kristin (26:27.534)
And I read one the other day, I'm like, that one lands for me in this season about like self sabotaging in ways where you're like dimming your light or not showing up in your fullest capacity because of what others may think or the, you know what I mean? not, or for the sake of humbleness or something too. And I was like, ooh.

Nadia Yakan (26:38.548)
with.

Nadia Yakan (26:47.185)
Yum-ness.

Nadia Yakan (26:52.456)
For the sake of humbleness too, that's interesting. Because I have experienced dimming my light to make other people comfortable, keep the peace. But dimming your light for the sake of humbleness, that makes me think of, okay, well, what is being humble? And if my version of humble is taking it to the extreme where my own light can't shine as bright.

Kristin (26:56.804)
Yeah

Kristin (27:03.29)
Or keep the peace, yeah.

Kristin (27:12.315)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (27:19.944)
then is that humble or is that something deeper? Is that something lost? I love that. Ooh, yeah.

Kristin (27:24.462)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. wait, what's going on here? My little notification pop up. Go away.

Nadia Yakan (27:34.69)
Go away. And I love that too about light and really experience the visualization of light and us as light. And that for me has been one of the biggest things of like diving deep into my own darkness and my own shadow self and really accepting the those dark parts of myself and kind of understanding like, I in order for me

Kristin (27:52.316)
Mmm

Nadia Yakan (28:04.273)
to be the light that I wanna be, I have to go into the darkness. Like it has to be dark, otherwise how will I illuminate myself and how will I even be able to heal those parts of myself if I don't go in and with full like unconditional love and trust that I have myself, we're okay and.

Kristin (28:09.371)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (28:18.394)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (28:23.898)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (28:28.062)
we will heal and grow no matter what it is and we can accept ourselves as we are. That's another theme. Yeah, I've got you. Yes. And that's another theme from The Mountain is You is accepting yourself as you are now and letting go of the expectations that we created of what our life should look like when we were young.

Kristin (28:30.338)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm Like I've got you

Kristin (28:40.604)
Mmm.

Kristin (28:50.211)
Mm-hmm

Nadia Yakan (28:51.846)
and letting that go because if I'm not living the life that I thought I would live when I was six or when I was 16 or 26, it's like, if holding onto that, makes me feel like everything that I'm doing is not enough. But when letting go of that, it's like, no, it's okay. Thank you so much for this beautiful dream. Thank you. But the life that I'm living right now is not only more than enough, it's exactly where I need to be.

Kristin (29:07.068)
Mmm. Mmm.

Kristin (29:20.624)
Yeah, and beautiful. Mm-hmm. had thought, we did an exercise yesterday in like a mastermind group where we kind of went in a little bit to our shadows and voiced, like we did a stream of conscious voicing for one minute on our fears, on what we feel obligated to, and then on our desires. And it's interesting because some of them like, know, or parlay or like connect to one another.

Nadia Yakan (29:22.266)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (29:36.07)
Hmm.

Kristin (29:48.314)
Yeah, that was like, I thought that was pretty powerful too. The good shadow work. This book sounds great though.

Nadia Yakan (29:50.997)
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we need it. Yeah, no, it's a great book. It's fantastic. I always feel like, you know, healing and this is funny just going back to my mom being my first teacher. She always says now that like she wishes that in public education or schooling that there would be like mindfulness kind of teachings and mindfulness practices because, you know, as young kids, we all have

Kristin (29:58.554)
No.

Kristin (30:03.162)
Mm-hmm. yeah

Kristin (30:13.724)
For sure.

Nadia Yakan (30:18.636)
these emotions, we have big feelings, we're navigating life and it's equally as important to have these tools, just like having tools to harness a skill, being a writer or director or a chef, you go to these schools and you harness and you practice to make the master, practice makes the master. And the same goes for our healing, it's just as important and you need those tools too.

Kristin (30:39.248)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (30:45.678)
Mmm, so true.

Nadia Yakan (30:47.593)
And like, also feel like when we're healing on our healing journey, it's not only a practice that will make us the master. It's also one of those journeys that we have to celebrate our wins ourselves because it's not like, I've, I've re I've reprogrammed my neuro pathway. So

I no longer, I can experience life abundantly. Like no one is celebrating that. There's not like a graduation ceremony for that. so finding those moments to really experience those wins are really important too, because it could be hard out here trying to heal, but so beautiful.

Kristin (31:13.852)
you

Kristin (31:18.406)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (31:27.74)
For sure. No, and I feel yeah, I'm like add that to a gratitude list. like sometimes I'll write down my wins or like I have this little journal. It's like, you know, sometimes it's like something I'm you know a challenge I'm facing today or something. I don't know. Sometimes I'll mark it out and I'm like, no, I'm celebrating. I'm not starting my day with this challenge. Or the focus on it.

Nadia Yakan (31:32.266)
Yeah!

Nadia Yakan (31:40.576)
Mmm.

Yes, I'm sounding like a woman. Yes, absolutely.

Kristin (31:52.526)
Yeah, no, that's true too, I believe, about harnessing the skill. Because I think a lot, mean like shoot, I think a lot of my drinking or earlier drug use was probably because I did feel so much. And I think that what a beautiful skill to have and harness is like emotional depth and EQ at a younger age, like mindfulness practices. That would have helped.

Nadia Yakan (31:56.535)
Mm.

Nadia Yakan (32:02.614)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (32:10.08)
Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. Yes, I know, I feel that because we're all just like drinking and smoking and like self-medicating in a way that was not helping us. It was harming us. Or it was just kind of giving us what we needed to survive in that moment. Yeah, yeah, like it was, I needed this for that time.

Kristin (32:22.895)
Yeah.

Kristin (32:28.54)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (32:33.614)
Yeah, I like looking at that lens too. like.

Nadia Yakan (32:41.409)
and just partying all the time and doing those things, I felt like, I needed to do this, this is what I should be doing. When in the background, there was a lot of family dynamics that I was dealing with and a lot of things that I was experiencing the loss of a childhood and experiencing the feeling of, I'm stressed being in high school because I want to be accepted and I have...

Kristin (32:48.88)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (33:00.668)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (33:08.64)
teachers here that are sometimes making me feel like, you know, their tactic to try to push me, the intention might be to help me grow, but the impact is making me feel like I'm not enough for them. And a lot of that surrounds like how sometimes it was hard for me to even love the craft and love. I went to a performing and visual arts high school and so.

Kristin (33:21.206)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (33:32.378)
cool.

Nadia Yakan (33:32.987)
It was really great and the people that, the students that went to that school are phenomenally talented and they are amazing. And it's been hard sometimes like wanting to go back into the creative industry or being a performer. Cause sometimes that little self in my brain will be like, well, you might not, weren't enough at that point. So what makes you think that now you'd be okay?

Kristin (33:58.01)
Hmm.

Nadia Yakan (33:59.551)
And it's like, no, we're okay. We were more than enough then just because we were partying and just because we didn't fit the mold or the idea of what that teacher or what was needed at that time doesn't mean that we were insignificant at all.

Kristin (34:10.204)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (34:16.735)
Beautiful. you, so creative, like did you have a particular like one that you focused on then or?

Nadia Yakan (34:23.878)
Yeah, really, so I started with musical theater. So I started as a performer. And like when I was six, I was like, I'm gonna win an Oscar. And I used to tell my mom if she was made me mad that I wouldn't thank her in my acceptance speech. so that's where I got my start. And then I went to university for and I got my bachelor of fine arts in musical theater as well.

Kristin (34:27.9)
Kristin (34:49.944)
Okay.

Nadia Yakan (34:51.294)
But through my university, that's where I kind of developed the love for writing and I started writing. And then I also developed my love for, I mean, I've always loved traveling, but I studied abroad while I was going through there and went to Italy and absolutely just was like, okay, my life is not gonna be what I thought it was gonna be. I want to create art with people.

Kristin (34:56.892)
Mmm.

Kristin (35:05.062)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (35:19.931)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (35:20.321)
I want to write art, I want to be in art, I want to just be a part of everything. And then I moved to New York and that's when I got into event producing. And that's actually where I met, where everything kind of came into place. I met you, like honestly where I met Teresa and that's how we all been able to meet now. And that like...

Kristin (35:30.884)
Hmm. cool. Okay, yeah.

Kristin (35:41.184)
that's cool.

Nadia Yakan (35:43.993)
that kind of re-engrained the love of being on the creative and like the production side of things. I really like seeing how people can operate and what their talents are and I want to connect everybody and create whatever they want to create. That's kind of what I've come into knowing. Yeah.

Kristin (35:59.536)
Mmm. Mmm. Ooh, good to know. Yeah, I know I was chatting with someone. think Marie maybe about having like a festival somewhere. Or was it you? I mean somewhere we're talking about having like all different kinds of like outlets. Yeah. I'm like, it's good to know someone in the event space or event room.

Nadia Yakan (36:10.17)
the end.

Nadia Yakan (36:15.567)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (36:21.09)
yeah, yeah.

Kristin (36:21.628)
Yeah, no, I actually I was thinking, you know, I took a step back. I was still doing some like acting or modeling on the side. And just last night I was like, you know what? I'm like, should I get an email or my niece some new headshots like put blue draw to work to give me art in that cable.

Nadia Yakan (36:35.257)
Yeah, yeah, look! I mean, he's such a cutie. Get those paychecks!

Kristin (36:44.994)
Yeah, you know, to be honest, I'm like, did think about getting some like little doggy glasses and like having him read my book and other books and like making like a book talk account or something. Because I was like, that could be funny. Once he's a little more settled down. Yeah. Yeah, I know. But I know speaking I want to circle back to surrender to

Nadia Yakan (36:54.124)
I lo-

Nadia Yakan (37:07.163)
Mm.

Kristin (37:08.132)
cause he's been a big lesson on that, like, or exactly how much of my schedule or like me scheduling myself was in a way, like different, a control aspect. and so he's helping my writing as far as taking more breaks because I typically right now when he's sleeping, and it's just like, just it through when I first went, was like, I'm going to have so much. I'm going to write this day and meet my deadline or goal by this day. And that was out the window. I'm like,

Nadia Yakan (37:11.023)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (37:19.395)
No, no, no, no, no.

Nadia Yakan (37:27.991)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (37:36.495)
Yeah.

Kristin (37:38.286)
Nope, I'm being called to be super present with you right here right now. Yeah, no, that's been, he's been a spiritual lesson and mirror in a lot of.

Nadia Yakan (37:41.05)
Yeah.

I love that.

Kristin (37:53.308)
He's like even I noticed the other day that I was feeling like a little frustrated and like and he was like more Chewy and stuff and then after I took a calming bath and came out more grounded like his energy was more calm and we just called up and watched Netflix I was like, I can't see a boy Okay, this is the state that honey

Nadia Yakan (38:01.367)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (38:10.596)
yeah, yeah, you're like, okay, thank you.

I love that.

Kristin (38:19.588)
Or then like, yeah, what are your thoughts on like surrendering or surrendering as it applies?

Nadia Yakan (38:23.887)
Yeah, it's definitely something that I thought I was doing and now in this season of my life I'm like, this is what surrendering is? Okay!

Nadia Yakan (38:41.688)
I used to write in my journals and I go back and I see them and I'm like, yeah, was like, yeah, surrender, I surrender. And now I'm like, shit, this is surrendering. Like my whole life is completely different. it really, cause I moved here to Pittsburgh through just like.

Kristin (38:43.642)
Yeah!

Kristin (38:53.654)
Hahaha!

Kristin (38:59.292)
wow.

Nadia Yakan (39:09.208)
I left my previous job and was really open. was like, what's our next best step? And my partner got an opportunity out here and we were like, okay, let's just go. And that has kind of shifted so many different things in my life because I was also, it's my first time in a new city that I've never once been to and I don't know anyone here. I was really blessed.

Kristin (39:29.66)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (39:38.263)
to move to New York with a community already there. I was blessed to, I mean, I moved to Italy, but like you're in a university and there's international student networks. So there's like an actual place that can help funnel those relationships. So this moving here into Pittsburgh has been like the biggest surrender in letting go of like the need to control.

Kristin (39:41.296)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (39:53.117)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (39:59.396)
Mmmmm

Nadia Yakan (40:04.531)
And really letting go of trying to make things like I'm currently my day job is what I've been calling it is like not necessarily completely aligned with what I authentically want out of my life. And I feel like at the same time, I need to be where I am right now so that I can really let go into, okay, what am I holding on to that's keeping me from this and

Kristin (40:17.52)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (40:24.09)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (40:31.77)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (40:33.552)
really knowing that, okay, it doesn't look right. It doesn't quote unquote, right. It doesn't feel 100%. But I'm trust I'm trusting that these every moment is getting me to the next right step.

Kristin (40:44.365)
Mm-hmm

Yeah, something it's like leading you to the next step. Yeah, I trust that and believe that in different aspects. I've had that shown to me in some ways. Like I had a job one time. Yeah, I just kind of like thought it was just like an easy kind of like chill like kind of wrote it off a little bit. This is when I first moved to Austin, I think in 2015, but I still showed up, my best like, but I was gonna make the little money that they gave me. And then,

Nadia Yakan (40:49.454)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes.

Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (41:04.244)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (41:12.543)
Yeah

Kristin (41:17.139)
You know, I think it was two years after that I was applying for like something in the same like field marketing space but more down the manager side and Someone that ended up interviewing me I was on the like guerrilla team with and so they like if had I not like You know done my best in that situation position. She probably wouldn't have hired me to be the manager

Nadia Yakan (41:24.501)
Mm.

Nadia Yakan (41:28.053)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (41:35.861)
Bye.

Nadia Yakan (41:44.595)
Right. Right.

Kristin (41:46.398)
It was such a cool experience too. And so I did see, was like, it's like a good frame of reference. Okay, every step leads to the next. And if I treat it like that, then it definitely will. And I think it goes back to that accepting too, like an accepting of the present moment and trusting and then feeling that in the future or that what you want in the future now. I think that there's like a combination or like a cauldron of that.

Nadia Yakan (41:57.928)
Yes.

Nadia Yakan (42:01.459)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Nadia Yakan (42:13.443)
Yes, yeah, it's all interconnected. And something that you said about accepting the present moment has been something that I've really leaned into. When I think of surrender, I think of the present because oftentimes I could find myself half living, either living in the past or living in the future. And when I surrender to, you know, just the present moment, everything else falls away.

Kristin (42:32.016)
Mmm. Mmm.

Kristin (42:42.468)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (42:42.759)
And the what ifs of the future fall away and clear, like there's just clear my vision. And when I'm in the present moment, too, and surrender to that, everything that has happened in the past also falls away. the not I don't want to necessarily equate them to shackles, but because I really am proud and grateful of where I've been. And at the same time, I think too much living in that.

Kristin (43:07.504)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (43:12.05)
can weigh us down. And so really like surrendering to, you I am here right now in this moment and what is happening now is laying the foundation for the future and we'll get there, but be here, be right here and learn and see what's happening. And gratitude has really helped me lean into, cause surrendering can sometimes feel like,

Kristin (43:12.176)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kristin (43:22.351)
Hmm

Kristin (43:30.057)
Mm-hmm

Nadia Yakan (43:41.21)
everything is falling apart. It's a complete tower moment and you're like, my God, what's happening? And I think gratitude really is a beautiful way to remind ourselves that it's all falling into place and look at these beautiful little moments that we have to be grateful for that mean more than the what if of the future or what could have been in the past.

Kristin (43:42.776)
Hahaha

Kristin (43:54.33)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (43:59.44)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (44:06.362)
Yeah, I feel like whatever we focus on is amplified and I know like, and sometimes it's a more of a battle than sometimes it flows or is easier about like, where am I putting my attention and focus? If it's on like black or what is not here, then that feels more amplified. But if I focus it on the gratitude things that's going to be amplified. So that needs to be my default.

Nadia Yakan (44:18.182)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (44:28.011)
Yes. Yeah, this is what we have to get to.

Kristin (44:33.73)
Yeah, yeah. I'm like noted. I'm like, uh-huh. Okay. Like I keep a running tab in my phone. And so, but I have like, okay. For being the 14th, there's, need to have more than three, than three entries, you three days of entries. Cause I keep, it's like a little scrapbook too. And so I'll just like, okay, I put the date, the month and the year, and then just different things that I'm great for different people, different experiences.

Nadia Yakan (44:39.729)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (44:52.603)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (44:56.564)
I love that.

Kristin (45:01.934)
And also some of it's like celebrations, like it's like, I'm grateful for progress on this. Yeah. So I feel like that helps too. And just like having it easily accessible. I, course, I like to write it and like feel it too, but I like having it just as like an easy reminder because I'm looking at my phone so much.

Nadia Yakan (45:06.758)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (45:14.545)
Right.

Nadia Yakan (45:18.096)
Yeah, absolutely. And I noticed that when I first met you at our friend's wedding when you would hear something and you'd go, I have to write that down. I really, I really felt inspired by that. I was like, I'm gonna do that. And I actually started doing that now. Yeah.

Kristin (45:22.982)
So.

Kristin (45:27.364)
I do. yeah. Do good. I love that. I love that. Yeah, no, have a life inspo one too. I think you said a lot of things that went on there. I know for sure we were talking about like the ends of life. Because I, you know, where I thought, yeah, we all it's gonna be this or this. I'm like, no, can it be both? Can the poss can you entertain the pot? Yes.

Nadia Yakan (45:38.99)
I love you.

Nadia Yakan (45:45.228)
Yes, the Antelope.

Nadia Yakan (45:50.898)
It can! I love that.

Kristin (45:55.022)
Let's see. What was that? July? Yeah. yeah. It just says like pushing into pool scene because we were talking about. Yeah, put down the ends of life. I love it.

Nadia Yakan (45:57.926)
Yeah, that was July, which feels like a thousand years ago.

Nadia Yakan (46:07.826)
Nadia Yakan (46:14.313)
I love that. Ands of life. That has been, that was something that I came into. I felt really called like a couple years ago to make a video and I put it on Instagram and I was talking about, know, we really have to lean into the ands of life and we can be happy and sad. We can be grateful and frustrated. We can be angry and grateful like that.

Kristin (46:34.022)
Mmm... Mm-hmm...

Nadia Yakan (46:40.626)
It's not anger really leaning into anger and understanding that there is a double-edged sword of both. There's a double-edged sword of fear and love and hope and peace and everything else. And I made this whole video about it and then the auto-closed captioning changed it to ants, A-N-T-S of life. And all my friends are like, that was such a beautiful video, but we couldn't.

Kristin (46:50.778)
Mmm.

Kristin (47:02.242)
No!

Nadia Yakan (47:08.37)
Keep it, take it seriously, because it's just ants alive.

Yeah, ants of life. Ants are pretty great. You could learn a lot from ants. are, they live in community. They... Yeah, they were so big. Exactly, exactly. But yeah, no, ants of life for sure. And surrendering and, you know, we have the moments of control where we have to control ourselves and our thoughts. And there are moments where we can't and that's okay.

Kristin (47:22.793)
Diligence. Worship a queen.

Kristin (47:40.318)
Mmm, true.

Nadia Yakan (47:44.97)
It doesn't necessarily make us a failure, quote unquote. It doesn't make us any, it doesn't take us backwards. Like nothing is ever taking us backwards. It's always taking us forward. Even if we're, even if we feel really heavy or we're experiencing a great loss and navigating grief, or if we're experiencing a transition where literally everything that we thought we would be doing is not what we're doing at all.

Kristin (47:56.652)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (48:11.888)
Yeah It sounds like it could be like great inspiration or things to write about her right from to

Nadia Yakan (48:19.57)
Exactly, exactly. And that's what I think is like the tools, finding those tools to, you know, I've been getting back into writing every day and writing what I think and what I feel. And for some people that might look like, you know, writing a song every day or something else. And so I think having those tools to help us is like the best is one of the best things.

Kristin (48:32.636)
Mmm.

Kristin (48:42.716)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (48:49.114)
I know for a fact that my whole life is just going to be like, you know, picking up different tools, letting go of certain tools. Because at some point our tool belts, we gotta, we gotta get a different tool belt.

Kristin (48:56.326)
for sure.

Kristin (49:00.614)
For sure. No, absolutely. No, I used to be way more strict or like, if I don't do my, you know, early meditation and then this and then this. Like at first, the routine and rituals, like it felt so very supportive. But then, then I was like, no, I more like fluidity and like, what do I need in this moment versus just like, okay, it's going to be this, this, this and this. And like, am I really wanting to do those things or am I really just wanting to cross them off a list? You know, which is good too, but it's like, they shift.

Nadia Yakan (49:07.154)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (49:13.04)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (49:16.656)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (49:24.593)
Yes.

Kristin (49:29.852)
And I love too that you mentioned something earlier about like fear and love and I'd to expand on that a little bit. Or about experiencing both maybe at the same time or.

Nadia Yakan (49:35.144)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (49:42.44)
Yeah, yeah, I think for me, one of my biggest philosophies is that the opposite of fear is love. And so whenever I'm experiencing fear, I do my best to practice asking myself like, what is beyond that fear? I really do believe that this double edged sword, like, it...

Kristin (49:51.43)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (50:03.004)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (50:09.0)
If there is fear, means that there is love in that space. And so if I'm afraid of taking an action step to my next, to starting a business or leaving a business or leaving a relationship or leaving a city or whatever that is, really feeling that fear. And that's like a big.

Kristin (50:13.148)
Mm.

Nadia Yakan (50:34.696)
part of it is that we have to feel the fear. There's like a saying, like feel the fear and do it anyway. And I like that. And I like to expand that we feel the fear and then that fear can, you know, create a Phoenix version of love. I really do think that it comes from the sense of like lack of control or like a false sense of control. Because if we if we're like, I don't know what's going to happen.

Kristin (50:39.344)
Mm-hmm

Kristin (50:51.63)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (51:04.22)
well, we're never gonna know what's gonna happen. It could be what if it doesn't work out, but what if it does? And so I really like to not judge myself for being fearful, really validate that it's okay. We're doing something we've never done before. Just because other people have done it, we've never done it. It's all good. And then really align myself with the love that is there, but not.

Kristin (51:09.498)
Yeah.

Kristin (51:23.418)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (51:30.16)
in a sense of like, am loving to silence, I'm loving through the fear.

Kristin (51:35.592)
Yeah, for sure. Now I definitely I have like this thing I'm like I feel feel the fear acknowledge it for me. It shows me where I'm invested in something Or like in some ways I'm like follow those. I'm like, okay What's on the other side of that for me? One of my biggest fears is motherhood or but I'm like now I feel like I'm in it and I totally used to like, know shy away I'm like I roll up people call themselves dog moms a little bit

Nadia Yakan (51:41.98)
Yeah.

Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (52:04.328)
Yeah.

Kristin (52:05.445)
Only because I'm like I saw a human but then now I'm like no your dog it is I totally take it back. didn't know how much work went into the I'm like I do like your dog walk. Yeah, but I'm just like owning it But yeah, and then I read Mary Ann Williamson's book a return to love and she talks about how like everything that is that isn't fear is or like looking at fear as a call for more love

Nadia Yakan (52:08.84)
It's still a being. It's still a being. You're like, I saw it.

Kristin (52:33.05)
And like when, you know, or like if we're feeling that kind of fear sensation or if someone's acting in fear, they're really calling for love. And so, or yeah, think like the opposite of fear is love. like that a lot.

Nadia Yakan (52:33.192)
Ooh, love that.

Nadia Yakan (52:40.456)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (52:45.784)
Yeah, I found that thought while I was reading the Four Agreements and really thinking about like being impeccable with my word and being lost in the like mitote is what he called it, the market of a thousand voices. And I really was like, when I was reading that book, was like, yep, that's exactly how I would describe where I'm at right now in my life. Like I am just in this.

Kristin (52:53.02)
Mmm

Kristin (53:04.464)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (53:15.211)
in this market of a thousand voices. And I really like what you said about the fear kind of illuminating where you're invested or illuminating where love is being called for. that I really just think it just kind of cements that, you know, fear, just like grief is love, I do believe that fear is love as well. It's just like the opposite side of it. Because so many times like we feel fear and we're like,

Kristin (53:36.622)
Yeah, yeah.

Kristin (53:40.942)
Hmm

Nadia Yakan (53:44.471)
We either, it keeps us from doing something, but I think making that switch of that perspective of like, I'm experiencing this fear because I'm being called for love, that is really can make a whole shift dynamic, yeah.

Kristin (53:56.668)
Yeah, That and then, like I definitely register sometimes my anxiety as a fear popping up or connect those two and so now I'm like, okay, when I'm feeling that anxiousness, which goes back, like I had an aha moment like a month or two ago or maybe, I don't know when, but I was like lying on there and taking a microdose but it ended up being like a little more than a microdose. And yeah, and I was.

Nadia Yakan (54:04.255)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (54:20.759)
Yeah, happens to the best of us.

Kristin (54:27.016)
I was like, I had this thing was like, to accept all of me and kind of goes like accepting the darkness or the shadowy parts. Like I'm gonna love my anxiety too. I'm like, yeah, yeah. And then I get to, and then I like reframe like, okay, I get to actually have this experience. And then, but yeah, so asking myself when I feel that, how can I show myself more love in that moment? So maybe it is like.

Nadia Yakan (54:36.771)
Yeah, yeah, yes, we got her.

Nadia Yakan (54:46.209)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (54:53.01)
Yeah.

Kristin (54:54.534)
taking my little bath and dumb and all that. Or just being more tender. Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (54:56.947)
Yes, exactly. And asking ourselves like, yeah, being more tender and like asking ourselves like, what do I need right now? Because that's something too, that conflict arises from lack of needs. Like whenever we are experiencing conflict with people or within ourselves, it's because needs are not being met. And when fear pops up, it can kind of be that illuminating thing of like, this is not what I'm getting. I'm not getting this.

Kristin (55:04.124)
Mm.

Kristin (55:10.012)
Mmm.

Kristin (55:15.676)
Mmm.

Kristin (55:24.668)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (55:25.001)
And then we get to how beautiful that it is that we get to give ourselves what we need. We not only like tell ourselves what we need, we then get to give ourselves what we need. And we also get to practice figuring out what that is for the rest of our lives. Yeah, it's just beautiful. beautiful. Yes.

Kristin (55:29.54)
Mm-hmm, true.

Kristin (55:39.612)
Which is beautiful. Gotta remind myself the odds that I'm here. Spinning on this little ball in this. cool.

Nadia Yakan (55:51.965)
Yes, exactly. It's like, it's so great. Yeah, we forget that we're floating. I just saw Kacey Musgraves on Sunday. my god, that was one of the probably one of the coolest experiences as an adult, like experiencing music. And two things.

I remembering is that she at one point was like, I'm just so grateful that we all get to experience this life and we're all in this room together because you know what? We're all just floating on a rock together. I was like, yeah, we are. We are all floating on a rock and how incredible is it that we like, there are moments, there are things in life like music.

Kristin (56:30.448)
We are!

Nadia Yakan (56:41.106)
and in the arts and movies and songs and that's why I love festivals because it's just all of the outcasts and the people of every shape and size and colors all come together and are experiencing life together and the concert itself I went in with the intention of I went by myself so and I was a little afraid I was like

Kristin (57:04.772)
Wow.

Nadia Yakan (57:07.132)
talk about fear, I was a bit nervous and afraid to like go on my own and never really like knew what to expect. And just yeah, thank you. I felt, I feel really proud of myself. And I took some gummies. I took some little gummies and I was like, it's gonna be a great time. It'll be a jam. And it was one of the most like healing experiences because

Kristin (57:17.36)
Go you. Yeah.

Kristin (57:25.065)
Hahaha

Nadia Yakan (57:34.864)
I think it was my intention and her intention, because she just was like setting this intention for everyone to come and be authentically themselves, to feel safe and heal through the music. And I love that. I think more artists should do that and set an intention for the entire space, because people really did. Everyone around me was just vibrating. It's such a...

Kristin (57:44.24)
Hmm.

Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (58:02.173)
loving level. There was one moment where a man in front of me asked me to sit down and I was like, why? In front of me, he asked me to sit down. And there's a version of myself that would have let that moment like really ruin my whole night. And I was so proud because I was just like, I don't know if it was the weed or the music or whatever. It's probably a mixture of both, but I was just like, why? It's all

Kristin (58:18.352)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (58:30.908)
That's what I said to him. I was just like, it's all good. And then I went back to the infestation. He never talked to me again. And it was just like, I just think that's so beautiful. Like whenever we feel that fear and we feel nervous or we feel anxious, like the true, it sounds so simple, but it is literally love. Like just kindness and love is just exactly what we need in order to like, to still feel more like ourselves.

Kristin (58:33.755)
Hahaha

Kristin (58:38.932)
you

Kristin (58:53.21)
Mmm... Mm-hmm...

Kristin (59:00.124)
So true. And yeah, he's probably triggered by your happiness. Go on, look at that wound.

Nadia Yakan (59:03.484)
Literally, it was so funny too. I was like, it's all good my guy. At one point when I asked him why, he was like, so the people behind you can see. And I had already talked with the girls behind me and we were all jamming. And I literally was like, I can assure you if I was sitting, they'd still be standing. It's all good.

Kristin (59:27.771)
Yeah, yes like are you with them why you have such an interesting do you listen to Queen Harvey? You're gonna love her. You're gonna love her. Yes, I'll send you some and it's 555 here. I love that. Yeah, no I saw her

Nadia Yakan (59:32.287)
Yeah, it's all okay. No, I've never. Okay, Queen, okay, I have to write it down. Yes. I love that.

Kristin (59:50.78)
And emo's and awesome, like, I don't know how for long ago, three weeks, something. So awesome, kind of like, yeah, very intentional. And then she had everyone in there, she's like, all right, deep breath. And it's just so lovely. And you're gonna totally vibe with her lyrics. It's very like manifestation oriented.

Nadia Yakan (59:55.91)
Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (59:59.77)
Mmm

Nadia Yakan (01:00:07.276)
I love them.

Nadia Yakan (01:00:12.346)
Yeah.

Kristin (01:00:16.06)
or like create tricks type of vibe. love her. Yeah. I'll send you some that are, that are great. and then I know I totally would love if you're open. we mentioned something about doing a personal reading. So if you don't want to listen to my personal reading, bye. No. Love you. Thank you for staying this long. Like subscribe. No kidding. Let's do all the things.

Nadia Yakan (01:00:19.128)
I love that. Yes, please do.

Nadia Yakan (01:00:30.65)
With gratitude and love. Yes, absolutely. Do you want these oracle cards? also have, I've also cleansed these, beep-a-deep, these spirit animals. They're Colette, Baron Reed Spirit Animal Oracle Cards. This is the book.

Kristin (01:00:54.044)
Mmm.

I want to do Spirit Animal. I feel like I got a lot from the collective one.

Nadia Yakan (01:01:01.558)
Yeah, yeah, I feel like that gave us what we needed. Okay, all right, Kristen. I'm just gonna call, is there a specific archangel or a spirit guide or anyone that you'd like me to specifically call in?

Kristin (01:01:09.372)
Kristin (01:01:16.836)
Hmm. Well, I have my Sekhmet statue right here. All right. Sekhmet, Isis, Hathor. And then just, yeah, Isis maybe.

Nadia Yakan (01:01:21.85)
Yeah

I says, okay.

Nadia Yakan (01:01:29.656)
Okay, all right. I call upon the spirit guides and spirit team, Kristen's highest vibration and highest good. I call upon Isis and her archangels that are in line with her spiritual healing journey. What does, thank you for your clear and direct messages. What does she need to know right now?

Nadia Yakan (01:01:56.863)
goodness.

Kristin (01:01:58.428)
the whole day. No, I'm kidding.

Nadia Yakan (01:02:00.92)
They need everything. One clarifying card please. What does Kristen need to know right now? This is probably my favorite deck that I own. my gosh, these are so beautiful. And I'll send you photos of this too so that you can read because like each

Kristin (01:02:13.52)
okay.

Kristin (01:02:26.086)
cool.

Nadia Yakan (01:02:29.688)
Each one has its own little thing. my goodness, let me just readjust. Okay, so the first card that popped up, because I asked for one card and a clarifying card and then the bottom of the deck. The first card that popped up is this gorgeous little Woodland Realm Owl Spirit. Look at her little crown. And the bottom of her card says, see clearly now.

Kristin (01:02:31.842)
Okay.

Kristin (01:02:36.38)
Excuse me.

Kristin (01:02:43.673)
Okay.

Kristin (01:02:50.997)
Aww.

Kristin (01:02:58.785)
Mmm! Hallelujah.

Nadia Yakan (01:02:59.826)
And then the clarifying card that came out. my God, I love this. This I've never seen this card is the lion spirit.

Kristin (01:03:09.692)
Ooh, fierce, fierce AF.

Nadia Yakan (01:03:11.413)
And she says, be generous with your spirit or be generous of spirit. Excuse me. Be generous of spirit. Interesting. And then the bottom of the deck is this beautiful elephant spirit.

Kristin (01:03:16.252)
Mmm.

Hmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:03:29.429)
which says learn from the past. Interesting that we were talking about the past. So I'll read a little ditty about 43, 37 and 25. I like listening. I like looking at the card numbers.

Kristin (01:03:31.836)
wow.

We were, yeah, interesting.

Kristin (01:03:43.452)
okay, yeah. The numbers. 4327. wait, 433725. Cool. Let's add that to a lotto ticket. Yeah. Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (01:03:49.653)
37 and then 25. Mm-hmm. Yeah, literally. If you're listening, go for it. Apparently we see clearly now. Okay, perfect. The owl spirit arrives to remind you that the wisdom within you is informed by your keen senses.

and the wisdom within the consciousness we all share. Even in the darkest night, the owl sees clearly and is guided by every sense it has, including the first sense of intuition. Right now, your sensitivities are turbocharged and you are receiving messages from all directions, which aligns with our collective reading of messages are coming from all sorts of places.

Kristin (01:04:37.466)
Yeah

They are.

Nadia Yakan (01:04:42.574)
Owl spirit reminds you to be wise and pay attention to what's between the lines. What is invisible to the naked eye, what cannot be heard with the ears and what others may not be able to perceive. With all your senses aroused, you have much knowledge available to you. Clarity will come to you as clarity will come as you sit with all that you are sensing.

Kristin (01:04:48.028)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:04:56.956)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:05:10.085)
allowing your intuition to guide you in understanding the whole and not just the parts. Let your wisdom arise and be your guide as you trust the acuity of all your senses. Intuition is real and can provide the clarity you need to understand your situation right now. Your relationship, your finances, your job, whatever it is, you can see the truth clearly now. Ooh!

Kristin (01:05:23.612)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:05:38.012)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:05:39.389)
And I love that because owls are like the woodland realm protectors, which for of our earth and seeing what we cannot see. like fairies and gnomes and, and I just think that there's something really beautiful about being called to sit in that and knowing that you have the senses to see what is beyond the 3d and see what may be like guiding you.

Kristin (01:05:45.026)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:05:52.292)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:06:04.208)
Mm-hmm

Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:06:07.569)
throughout your next step. So even if your mind can't see it yet, your heart and your intuition and your third eye absolutely knows and can sense that next right step. I love that. Love that. And then lion spirit 37, Aslan from Narnia. I love that.

Kristin (01:06:13.914)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:06:17.834)
Mmm... Mmm.

Kristin (01:06:31.729)
Ooh.

Nadia Yakan (01:06:35.44)
Be generous of spirit. A healthy ego means you ease God's order instead of edging God out. Lion, that's a strong opening. A healthy ego means you ease God's order instead of edging God out.

Kristin (01:06:44.129)
my E E's God's order.

Kristin (01:06:55.504)
Wow.

Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (01:06:59.536)
Which it's funny that I said Aslan because Aslan and Narnia is a like metaphorical god of Narnia. very interesting. spirits appears. sorry. Lion spirits appearance is a reminder that you have been given the gift of pride and a healthy sense of your worth to express your divine, authentic self in a unique way. That is so powerful.

Kristin (01:07:09.308)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:07:27.074)
Mmm!

Nadia Yakan (01:07:29.6)
You are both the king and the queen. Secure in your prosperity and wisdom and generous of spirit, and generous of spirit as you help others. Take pride in your ability to serve from the heart. Contentment with what you have right now allows you to use your resources wisely as you give to others in ways that educate, heal,

Kristin (01:07:38.076)
Mmm.

Mmm.

Kristin (01:07:47.004)
Mm.

Kristin (01:07:51.132)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:07:58.039)
inspire and delight. Love that, that's beautiful. Be proud yet humble, but not humble that you are dimming your light. Practice gratitude and you will find that the accolades that come to you are no match for the joy of knowing what you have been able to do for others through expressing the bounty of generosity within you.

Kristin (01:08:00.07)
Wow, love that.

Kristin (01:08:20.141)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:08:23.772)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:08:25.012)
Lion Spirit knows there is a great savanna before you and many who will benefit from the healthy expression of your unique set of gifts if you choose to work in partnership with Spirit. All your relationships flourish as you express your worth and generosity of Spirit with humility and kindness. What a blessing you can be to all! Is the exclamation point.

Kristin (01:08:46.926)
Wow. Wow.

Nadia Yakan (01:08:53.23)
love that. I think there's something really special because that was the clarifying card. And the first card that came out is really calling you to, you know, really use your intuition, trust your intuition, allow yourself to experience what you cannot see, what you cannot hear. And this card, the clarifying card is like, yeah, because by doing that, you're going to co-create abundance with spirit.

Kristin (01:09:05.894)
Trust, yeah.

Kristin (01:09:12.038)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:09:21.513)
you'll know exactly what you need to do to foster in healing for yourself and for others, creating a community of people that just are all evolving together. And I really think it's lovely that it says like to be humble, not, there's nothing in this that is like dimming at all. This is, this is light and I feel like so much.

Kristin (01:09:31.068)
Mmm.

Mmm.

Kristin (01:09:39.622)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:09:49.894)
of just like loving energy of just abundance of coming contentment with what you have right now allows you to use your resources wisely as you give to others in ways that educate, heal, inspire and delight. Yeah, I will, will say.

Kristin (01:09:53.776)
I love that.

Yeah.

Kristin (01:10:04.292)
I love that. I'm gonna need copies of these photos. Yeah, I wrote that down. And it's just such a good reminder to like the focus like, yeah.

Nadia Yakan (01:10:11.82)
Yeah, like you have everything you need. my gosh, I love that. And then the bottom of the deck is learned from the past. Let me go to her. Little elephant, which elephants are very intelligent creatures. Every single animal that has come to you for this reading,

Kristin (01:10:30.33)
Good, good memory like an elephant.

Nadia Yakan (01:10:40.78)
are really intelligent creatures, very intelligent. Owls are very resourceful and very keen and lions are community based and really like very powerful in their leadership and elephants are very grounding and nurturing and I mean owls are more individual, like there's importance in that, but lions and elephants

Kristin (01:10:42.884)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:10:55.93)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:11:01.211)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:11:10.558)
they travel in packs. Although we often wish we could leave the past behind, elephant spirit reminds us that memory matters. We must respect the wisdom of the elders who hand down to us traditions that they have shaped to express our connection to each other and respect for the community. What has come before informs what we are experiencing today.

Kristin (01:11:10.566)
Definitely are in there. Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (01:11:36.744)
and we must never forget our legacy of strength and dignity. Elephant spirit appears with the message that we are to acknowledge that which came before and learn from it. All of us are memory-based creatures and we must revisit the past to understand where we are and where we are going. The stories of events you experienced, the stories in our collective memory and the stories of relationships you have had

Kristin (01:11:41.148)
Mmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:12:05.514)
can be told many ways. What story will you tell? Elephant Spirit is here to encourage you to make it one that stirs in you a sense of power and dignity, for you have honored yourself by choosing to learn from your past. Spirit rejoices at your willingness to learn and grow.

Kristin (01:12:29.313)
Simp simp simp simp simp

Nadia Yakan (01:12:30.826)
I love that! I love that! And there's something really powerful. I said this previously, like I sometimes practice this balance of not living too much in the past. And I think what's really powerful about that specific elephant spirit's guidance is that you're honoring the past and you're learning from the past. You're not living in the past.

Kristin (01:12:44.986)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (01:12:55.033)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (01:12:58.236)
You're just experiencing the memory of what was and taking what you're being called to take and apply it to the life that you're trying to build now, the projects that you're working on, the people that you're experiencing and healing and growing with. This is really powerful. Yeah.

Kristin (01:13:06.993)
Yeah.

Kristin (01:13:10.48)
Yeah, for sure.

for sure.

Kristin (01:13:18.584)
Mm-hmm. That's why I love memoir writing. I told it, yeah, when I was chatting with someone, was like, yeah, can write your old and live your new. Yeah, taking the lessons. But yeah, but not living there or being super attached to it.

Nadia Yakan (01:13:27.143)
I love that. I never thought about that.

Nadia Yakan (01:13:35.719)
Observing, not absorbing.

Kristin (01:13:38.409)
Yeah, ooh, I like that.

Nadia Yakan (01:13:42.595)
Observe, not absorb. That's a nice little affirmation. I can't take credit for that. That's from my girlfriend, Rachel. She told me that, and it is probably one of my go-to affirmations throughout the day. Observe, don't absorb. Alliteration.

Kristin (01:13:45.818)
Mmm.

I love that though.

Kristin (01:13:55.942)
Mmm, yeah. Ooh, I could apply that to multiple situations. like...

Kristin (01:14:06.748)
I know I had someone come on and she said that she had like, you know, a little, I don't know where she is on like the spectrum or scale of autism, but she's like, I don't know if it's like one of my traits that I love a little. I'm like, I do too, but I think I'm on that scale too. I have a touch of the tism. Yeah. Yes. I think that's what some of it I'm like, okay. I think that may.

Nadia Yakan (01:14:21.261)
Yeah. Yeah. We're all just on this vector of living our beautiful lives.

Kristin (01:14:35.068)
Like the sense of witchiness or finding patterns or synchronicities or signs and stuff too. I'm like, what a gift. What a beautiful gift. Like that might be neural spiciness. And sensitivity, for sure.

Nadia Yakan (01:14:42.395)
Yes.

Yes, yes, absolutely. Yeah, sensitivity to the energy around you helps you discern where we would like to spend our time. And are we planting seeds in this space? Or are we just passing through? It's it's so true that that energy being sensitive to those things. I think it's more natural than what may be a typical.

Kristin (01:14:51.665)
Yeah.

Mmm. Mmm.

Mmm. Ew.

Nadia Yakan (01:15:13.465)
and what may be perceived as normal. And that's why like people who don't necessarily fit within that mold are the most creative and like intuitive beings because they are operating in this sense of authenticity that is beyond our 3D realm. They're not operating in what the projected society rules are telling us. Yeah.

Kristin (01:15:14.338)
Kristin (01:15:25.819)
Mmmmm

Kristin (01:15:33.564)
Mmmmm

Kristin (01:15:39.708)
Yeah, what they're told to do. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And like you're being told what to do and what to think from all different angles a lot. yeah, yeah, question it.

Nadia Yakan (01:15:42.734)
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Yakan (01:15:47.779)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we don't want any of that. You're being called to march to the beat of your own drum and co-create with spirit. And I think that is something that everyone can absolutely take a page out of and knowing that when we co-create and align ourselves with what we want to do, we are

Kristin (01:15:58.243)
Yes!

Nadia Yakan (01:16:11.593)
always going to be living in a state of abundance and peace and hope and that sounds really like can sometimes sound very like yeah like we can all live in the kumbaya and i'm like no i genuinely believe that if we all did this we would all be happy

Kristin (01:16:16.56)
Mmm.

Kristin (01:16:24.004)
Hahaha

Kristin (01:16:31.475)
Yeah, well, you know, I hear I heard something I was watching a video about this woman She's like, okay step one like becoming delusional and I I was like, hey fucking if that's what it's called Delusional has worked for me

Nadia Yakan (01:16:39.691)
Yeah!

Nadia Yakan (01:16:45.984)
Yeah, we're all just operating in different levels of dilution. Let's go.

Kristin (01:16:52.22)
It works! I love it and I love your energy. I'm grateful for you for coming on.

Nadia Yakan (01:17:01.058)
Thank you. Thank you. I'm grateful for being asked to be here and really you sharing the space with me. I really appreciate it. I love the work. Thank you. You do too. You are really connect out here connecting people and encouraging people in more ways than one to live their authentic life. And I think that's really important in this day and age right now.

Kristin (01:17:06.94)
Yeah

Kristin (01:17:11.196)
You get so much wisdom.

Kristin (01:17:22.428)
Thank you.

Kristin (01:17:26.15)
Thank you. Much love. And then if you want to share where people can find you, if you want people to find you. Doot doot. Yeah.

Nadia Yakan (01:17:32.222)
Yes, absolutely. You can find me on Instagram at Nod's Bay. And that has a link to my website and I'm in the process of updating everything and I just want to create some beautiful events with everybody. So hit me up.

Kristin (01:17:45.488)
Beautiful.

Kristin (01:17:49.722)
Yes, let's do it. I'm going to chat with my friend too about, you know, she mentioned something about like some kind of festival thing. So I need to put my feelers out with her.

Nadia Yakan (01:17:56.18)
Yes, we absolutely should do that.

We could use a lot more music festivals in this world.

Kristin (01:18:02.614)
Mm-hmm music having our yeah, like doing some like poetry. We can do all kinds of cool stuff. Love it. Okay

Nadia Yakan (01:18:07.602)
love that.